• Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first

    From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Mon Aug 7 08:55:30 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Aug 05 2023 12:37 pm

    I've seen some cars like that, with the battery hidden in a trunk compartment. I've heard it's "to make more room in the engine compartment", but I'm not sure if it's always engineers being idiots - I imagine the company might also want things to be difficult to work on so that more customers might decide to take their car to the dealership to be worked on.

    I had a 78 Vette at one point, it was in the back somewhere because of that.

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Mon Aug 7 09:27:00 2023
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    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Nightfox to candycane on Fri Aug 04 2023 09:23 am



    engineers are really idiots and don't think about what will happen down the line. i've seen car batteries where you had to jack up the car and take off the tire to get to the battery. i've seen batteries in a compartment in the trunk and they have wires running under the hood
    with posts for jumping.

    My Camaro is that way. Pull the carpet, pull the cover, pull the tools and then the spare tire to even get to the cover on the battery. It's a pain but there definately is no room under the hood....


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Nightfox on Mon Aug 7 09:35:00 2023
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    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Dredster to MRO on Sun Aug 06 2023 12:07 am

    My 2014 Camaro has the battery in the trunk. You have to take out the spare tire to get to it.. Pain in the a$$ if you have a lot of stuff in the trunk like I do..

    Meh, Chevy.. They seem to be fairly good cars, but I know someone who
    had a Chevy and it was difficult to even replace the front headlight
    bulbs - you couldn't just twist them out.

    My 2010 Camaro headlights have the High-Intensity Discharge system and you have to use special, and expensive, bulbs. It is recommended that all power be drained off the system and disconnect the batery before changing bulbs. I guess it can pack quite a jolt if not. Just had to do it a few months ago.





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to The Lizard Master on Mon Aug 7 17:38:02 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Mon Aug 07 2023 08:55 am

    I've seen some cars like that, with the battery hidden in a trunk
    compartment. I've heard it's "to make more room in the engine

    I had a 78 Vette at one point, it was in the back somewhere because of that.

    I spent a lot of time working on my friend's '77 Vette. Was the 78 the first year of the bubble-back Vettes?

    Putting the battery in the back helps with weight distribution on front-engine cars. Don't know how much it would help with vettes, as they're monsters.

    My Vette story - my friend used to always want to race people off of stop lights, and he'd always get beat. He'd try replacing the spark plug wires, get a high-flow air filter, you name it. He went to get the spark plugs replaced (again) at a new shop and they called him over. When they pulled the plugs, they found 6 of the NGKs he'd bought, and 2 of the OEM AC Delco plugs that the previous shop never replaced because they were in the back and too hard to get to!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Thumper on Mon Aug 7 17:38:46 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to MRO on Mon Aug 07 2023 09:27 am

    My Camaro is that way. Pull the carpet, pull the cover, pull the tools and then the spare tire to even get to the cover on the battery. It's a pain but there definately is no room under the hood....

    My dad's Subaru had the battery AND the spare tire under the hood!
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Thumper on Mon Aug 7 17:39:55 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to Nightfox on Mon Aug 07 2023 09:35 am

    My 2010 Camaro headlights have the High-Intensity Discharge system and you have to use special, and expensive, bulbs. It is recommended that all power be drained off the system and disconnect the batery before changing bulbs. I guess it can pack quite a jolt if not. Just had to do it a few months ago.

    I read about HID bulbs, but I didn't know that about needing to drain the system. Sounds like working on an old CRT!

    I have standard bulbs in my car, everyone else's super-bright lights are all I need. :)
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 8 08:09:11 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Lizard Master on Mon Aug 07 2023 05:38 pm

    I had a 78 Vette at one point, it was in the back somewhere because of that.

    I spent a lot of time working on my friend's '77 Vette. Was the 78 the first year of the bubble-back Vettes?

    Putting the battery in the back helps with weight distribution on front-engine cars. Don't know how much it would help with vettes, as they're monsters.

    My Vette story - my friend used to always want to race people off of stop lights, and he'd always get beat. He'd try replacing the spark plug wires, get a high-flow air filter, you name it. He went to get the spark plugs replaced (again) at a new shop and they called him over. When they pulled the plugs, they found 6 of the NGKs he'd bought, and 2 of the OEM AC Delco plugs that the previous shop never replaced because they were in the back and too hard to get to!

    Wow that's infuriating! Yes, it was the first bubble back silver anniversary edition.

    It looked like this: https://barnfinds.com/10k-original-miles-1978-chevrolet-corvette-silver-anniversary-with-no-reserve/

    Such an awesome looking car. When I sold it, I used ebay. Some guy who worked the rigs in norway bought it. I spoke with him a few times and it was always hard to hear and he had to send money via wire. I was certain the whole thing was a scam, but apparently they don't have easy acces to a lot of these cars and the transaction went smooth. A truck pulled up and took it to an international shipping company and that was that. I miss it though!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Thumper on Tue Aug 8 23:27:29 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to Nightfox on Mon Aug 07 2023 09:35 am


    My 2010 Camaro headlights have the High-Intensity Discharge system and you have to use special, and expensive, bulbs. It is recommended that all power be drained off the system and disconnect the batery before changing bulbs. I guess it can pack quite a jolt if not. Just had to do it a few months ago.

    i'm surprised they use those xeon bulbs instead of led. internet sez they started using led headlights in 2004. i switched my suv's dim headlights to led and i love 'em.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/ENSEMBLE to GenFx on Wed Aug 9 06:51:26 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: GenFx to candycane on Fri Aug 04 2023 05:52 pm

    Just last week I had to scrap my car due to a computer problem.
    The main PCB had no markings of course no schematics are available.
    I couldn't even buy a replacement computer from the dealer, They didn't

    That's strange. How old is the car? Did you try the many online Auto parts stores. I've even seen used part sold online. Oh well.. I guess it don't matter if the car went to the auto graveyard. Sorry for your loss.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Hustler on Wed Aug 9 06:58:00 2023
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    That's strange. How old is the car? Did you try the many online Auto parts stores. I've even seen used part sold online. Oh well.. I guess
    it don't matter if the car went to the auto graveyard. Sorry for your loss.

    Might have been worth going to an auto picker. They're dissapearing
    quickly as real estate in California real estate gets more expensive,
    but when I had an old VW they were invaluable. A replacement seat, dash
    insert, gas cap, and door card were all dirt cheap.



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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Wed Aug 9 09:20:00 2023
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    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to Nightfox on Mon Aug 07 2023 09:35 am


    My 2010 Camaro headlights have the High-Intensity Discharge system and you have to use special, and expensive, bulbs. It is recommended that all power be drained off the system and disconnect the batery before changing bulbs. I guess it can pack quite a jolt if not. Just had to do it a few months ago.

    i'm surprised they use those xeon bulbs instead of led. internet sez
    they started using led headlights in 2004. i switched my suv's dim headlights to led and i love 'em. ---

    When I looked for replacement bulbs, there appear to have been different types used for that model. Halogen, 2 styles and then the HID. I wanted to change to LED but I guess not with the HID setup. I did change tail lights to LED though.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Thumper on Wed Aug 9 12:56:14 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to MRO on Wed Aug 09 2023 09:20 am


    When I looked for replacement bulbs, there appear to have been different types used for that model. Halogen, 2 styles and then the HID. I wanted to change to LED but I guess not with the HID setup. I did change tail lights to LED though.


    you just use a conversion kit.
    they have hid to led kits.

    i'm supposed to use a canbus for my led lights, but the harness they gave me created a fuck ton of heat and killed my battery. i just go without it and my console warns me about the headlights because they don't draw enough power.
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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Wed Aug 9 15:56:28 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to MRO on Wed Aug 09 2023 09:20 am


    When I looked for replacement bulbs, there appear to have been different types used for that model. Halogen, 2 styles and then the HID. I wanted to change to LED but I guess not with the HID setup. I did change tail lights to LED though.


    you just use a conversion kit.
    they have hid to led kits.

    i'm supposed to use a canbus for my led lights, but the harness they gave me created a fuck ton of heat and killed my battery. i just go without it and my console warns me about the headlights because they don't draw enough power.

    I'll have to look into that! :) Of course after the cost of the HID bulbs, I might wait awhile and get my monies worth out of them! :)



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  • From GenFx@VERT/DR to Hustler on Thu Aug 10 18:38:24 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Hustler to GenFx on Wed Aug 09 2023 06:51:26

    That's strange. How old is the car? Did you try the many online Auto parts stores. I've even seen used part sold online. Oh well.. I guess it don't matter if the car went to the auto graveyard. Sorry for your loss.

    13 years, Yeah I tried everything.
    Thanks thats very kind ^^

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  • From Dredster@VERT/CAVERNS to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 11 10:05:32 2023
    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Thumper on Mon Aug 07 2023 05:38 pm

    Re: Re: Zoox Robotaxi, first
    By: Thumper to MRO on Mon Aug 07 2023 09:27 am

    My Camaro is that way. Pull the carpet, pull the cover, pull the tools and then the spare tire to even get to the cover on the battery. It's a pain but there definately is no
    room
    under the hood....

    My dad's Subaru had the battery AND the spare tire under the hood!

    So, where was the engine? :)

    Dred

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