Aaron Thomas wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

If what they're saying on the news is true about all the fentanyl
coming into the country, then they want us to be passed out.

So, not being the kind of person who does drugs, I'm confused at the "fentanyl crisis" I keep hearing about.

For me, if you choose to take a toxic drug and die, well, that was your decision and it doesn't impact me (well, not in a major way).

But there seems to be an implication that some people are taking fentanyl without knowing that they are taking it. How is that possible?


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Hey Ron!

On Thu, May 29 2025 06:58:56 -0500, you wrote:

But there seems to be an implication that some people are taking fentanyl without knowing that they are taking it. How is that possible?

While I don't do any of this (nor do I condone it), I happen to know a bit about it.

It is not an implication. Many fentanyl deaths are due to the user not actually knowing they're taking it. They probably think it's their same old dose of heroin and injest the same amount they normally do. However, when fentanyl is added to it, they're more than likely going to overdose.

Getting "pure" cocaine or heroin is probably just about impossible these days, no matter what a dealer tells you.

Example:

"Cocaine is often cut with various substances to increase profits and may include additives like baking soda, sugar, or more dangerous drugs such as fentanyl, amphetamines, and local anesthetics. This practice can significantly increase the risks associated with cocaine use, including overdose."

Same can be said about heroin. The main reason is so that the dealer can sell more at a lesser expense to themselves.

Honestly, I had never heard of fentanyl until it was brought up as involved in Michael Jackson's death, and now it's one of the biggest killers out there as far as drugs are concerned. Go figure .. ?

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So, not being the kind of person who does drugs, I'm confused at the "fentanyl crisis" I keep hearing about.

For me, if you choose to take a toxic drug and die, well, that was your decision and it doesn't impact me (well, not in a major way).

But there seems to be an implication that some people are taking fentanyl without knowing that they are taking it. How is that possible?

I'm not a big druggie or anything either, but from what I understand about fentanyl (and I could be wrong - this comes from the media) the fentanyl is concentrated opium, and it can kill people transdermally (just by touching it) and that is what (supposedly) has killed many unsuspecting people (cops, kids in hotel rooms, etc.)

But you already know this much: drugs, addiction, poverty, overdose deaths, misery, juice for the media, are part of a balanced leftist's diet.

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Honestly, I had never heard of fentanyl until it was brought up as involved in Michael Jackson's death, and now it's one of the biggest killers out there as far as drugs are concerned. Go figure .. ?

It's good for medical use, but we don't need it laying around like it's a pack of smokes.

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Nick Boel wrote to Dr. What <=-

It is not an implication. Many fentanyl deaths are due to the user not actually knowing they're taking it. They probably think it's their same old dose of heroin and injest the same amount they normally do.
However, when fentanyl is added to it, they're more than likely going
to overdose.

But what you are describing here is someone already taking a drug that is known to be bad for them, but has been laced with fentanyl - making it worse.

But if they didn't take the bad drug illegally in the first place, they wouldn't have taken the fentanyl.

The Narrative that I hear seems to be along the lines of "I went to get my perscription filled and it had fentanyl in it" or "my kid bought some candy and it had fentanyl in it." Not actual stories, but the reporting seems to be implying this.

I don't think most people care if a heroin addict dies of fentanyl poisoning. They were going to die from the heroin anyway.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I'm not a big druggie or anything either, but from what I understand
about fentanyl (and I could be wrong - this comes from the media) the fentanyl is concentrated opium, and it can kill people transdermally
(just by touching it) and that is what (supposedly) has killed many unsuspecting people (cops, kids in hotel rooms, etc.)

Ahhh... Now that would make sense. Sort of like the LSD-laced paper back in the 1960's. I did not know that fentanyl could be absorbed through the skin.

But you already know this much: drugs, addiction, poverty, overdose deaths, misery, juice for the media, are part of a balanced leftist's diet.

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Hey Ron!

On Fri, May 30 2025 07:04:44 -0500, you wrote:

But what you are describing here is someone already taking a drug that is known
to be bad for them, but has been laced with fentanyl - making it worse.

Still unknowingly. This is probably the majority of the cases you've been /hearing/ about.

But if they didn't take the bad drug illegally in the first place, they wouldn't have taken the fentanyl.

It still doesn't make it right. In fact, it probably falls under 'premeditated murder'.

The Narrative that I hear seems to be along the lines of "I went to get my perscription filled and it had fentanyl in it" or "my kid bought some candy and
it had fentanyl in it." Not actual stories, but the reporting seems to be implying this.

I don't think I've ever heard much, if anything, close to this.

I don't think most people care if a heroin addict dies of fentanyl poisoning.
They were going to die from the heroin anyway.

More than likely not until it hits closer to home.

Regards,
Nick

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Nick Boel wrote to Dr. What <=-

Still unknowingly. This is probably the majority of the cases you've
been /hearing/ about.

My confusion here is over the concern about fentanyl.

Ex: Take someone who is an alcaholic but has little to no income. So when he gets money, he buys the cheapest booze he can get. He gets some laced with too much anti-freeze and dies.

I don't condider that a problem. He was dying anyway. If he had plenty of money to get good booze, he still would have died.

It still doesn't make it right. In fact, it probably falls under 'premeditated murder'.

I'm not applying a "right vs. wrong". I'm saying that someone who participates in a risky habit has to accept that risk. That fentanyl increases those risks does not make it a "crisis".

They were going to die from the heroin anyway.

More than likely not until it hits closer to home.

No matter who it is, if someone plays on a busy road and gets creamed by a truck, he got what he earned. He put himself in harms way with a conscious act.


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