Hi Dave,

Pretty much. It was like she didn't care any more. She asked me to
move in with her - I suspect mostly to help ride herd on my younger brother. When she passed I became his guardian.

How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when
all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any guardianship issues.

He was 14. So I raised/supervised/advised him for four years before he

An age where the right kind of supervision will turn the kid into a good
young man.

joined the Navy where he learned two widely divergent trades. Cooking
and underwater welding. He was running the kitchen at the Pensacola
Naval Air Station's officer's club when he fund that underwater
welding paid astounding amounts of $$$ per hour so he gave up cheffing
and went to working on the offshore oil rigs on a contract basis. It
paid well
enough that he only had to work a few days a month to provide for his
wife and children with lots left over for "projects".

Sounds like he turned out well. Interesting that the Navy let him pursue
2 such widely divergent career paths.

Sounds like it so all of those folks that came over from that part of England would have been happy. Probably passed along to their neighbors how to make cider and let it age into vinegar.

When I make cider vinegar I *always* add some "mother" to the raw
juice and - Presto - ChangeO ... cider vinegar. Bv)=

Modern way, old way was to set a barrel of cider outside and let it
overwinter, drawing off what you need (but topping it off with more
cider as you did). By spring you would have a right nice barrel of
vinegar, just in time for the summer preserving and such like.

Scrumpy is a type of cider originating in the West of England,

You likely wouldn't drink it because of the alcohol. I've tried it and don't care to repeat the experience. But, I might cook with it if
there were some on hand,

Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)


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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

Pretty much. It was like she didn't care any more. She asked me to
move in with her - I suspect mostly to help ride herd on my younger brother. When she passed I became his guardian.

How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when
all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any guardianship issues.

He was 14. So I raised/supervised/advised him for four years before he

An age where the right kind of supervision will turn the kid into a
good young man.

So long as he thought I was advising him on "how "to get away with"
stuff he paid attention.

joined the Navy where he learned two widely divergent trades. Cooking
and underwater welding. He was running the kitchen at the Pensacola
Naval Air Station's officer's club when he fund that underwater
welding paid astounding amounts of $$$ per hour so he gave up cheffing
and went to working on the offshore oil rigs on a contract basis. It
paid well enough that he only had to work a few days a month to
provide for his wife and children with lots left over for "projects".

Sounds like he turned out well. Interesting that the Navy let him
pursue 2 such widely divergent career paths.

Whilst doing the Navy's version of KP he was a cook's helper and he
paid attention. Then his "A" school for training as a hull mantainence
tech took him into a new class and taught him the underwater welding
thing. And after graduation from that it was back to cook's helper
until his orders came through assigning him to a ship.

Sounds like it so all of those folks that came over from that part of England would have been happy. Probably passed along to their neighbors how to make cider and let it age into vinegar.

When I make cider vinegar I *always* add some "mother" to the raw
juice and - Presto - ChangeO ... cider vinegar. Bv)=

Modern way, old way was to set a barrel of cider outside and let it overwinter, drawing off what you need (but topping it off with more
cider as you did). By spring you would have a right nice barrel of vinegar, just in time for the summer preserving and such like.

Scrumpy is a type of cider originating in the West of England,

You likely wouldn't drink it because of the alcohol. I've tried it and don't care to repeat the experience. But, I might cook with it if
there were some on hand,

Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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Title: Picnic Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
Yield: 10 Servings

2 lb Frozen hash browns
1/2 c Butter; melted
2 cn Cream of chicken soup
2 c Cheddar cheese; grated
2 c Sour cream
1/2 c Onion; chopped
S & P
Onion granules
Garlic granules

Mix everything together. Place into a greased 13" X 9"
or 3 qt. casserole dish. Mix 2 cups of crushed corn
flakes with 1/4 cup melted butter. Spread on top of
casserole.

Bake at 350oF/175oC for 45 minutes to 1 hour.

Recipe from the kitchen of Rita Emmett

Note: If you use the 13" X 9" dish there will be some
left over to keep at home.

Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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Title: Perfect Picnic Rub
Categories: Rubs, Condiments, Herbs, Chilies
Yield: 1 Batch

5 tb Ground black pepper
1/4 c Turbinado sugar
3 tb Paprika
2 tb Salt
1 tb Dry mustard
2 ts Onion powder
1 ts Cayenne

Mix together. Store in glass jar. Protect from excess
heat. Use liberally.

From: Smoke & Spice

Shared By: Pat Stockett - 06-22-95

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Title: Farm Monitor's Pressed Italian Picnic Sandwich
Categories: Breads, Pork, Beef, Cheese, Vegetables
Yield: 4 servings

1/4 c Olive oil
3 tb Balsamic vinegar
1 ts Dijon mustard
1/4 ts Black pepper; to taste
1/4 c Prepared pesto
1 Loaf Ciabatta bread
1/4 lb Sliced provolone cheese
1/2 lb Salami
1/2 lb Sliced ham
1/4 lb Sliced pepperoni
1 lb Fresh mozzarella; sliced
1/2 c Roasted red peppers; sliced

Combine olive oil, vinegar, pesto and pepper.

Cut bread in half, spread oil mixture evenly on both
cut sides.

Layer provolone and remaining ingredients in order
listed.

Tightly wrap sandwich in plastic wrap, place a heavy
object such a heavy frying pan in top of the sandwich,
refrigerate overnight.

Slice sandwich into serving sizes and wrap in deli paper
to serve.

RECIPE FROM: https://www.farm-monitor.com

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Title: Provencal picnic sandwich (Pan bagnat)
Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Herbs, Seafood
Yield: 7 Servings

1 Pain de campagne or round
- sourdough loaf (400g/14oz)
1 cl Garlic; fine chopped/grated
3 tb Extra virgin olive oil
1 sm Red onion; thin sliced
3 lg Ripe tomatoes; sliced
1 (15 cm/6") cucumber; sliced
225 g Tin tuna in olive oil;
- drained
6 Anchovies in olive oil;
- drained
3 lg Hard-boiled eggs; peeled,
- sliced
20 Nicoise or Kalamata olives;
- pitted, halved
1 ts Fresh oregano or marjoram
- leaves; chopped
10 Fresh basil leaves; torn
1 Handful rocket leaves
1 tb Red wine vinegar
1 ts Dijon mustard
Salt & fresh ground pepper

Slice off the top quarter of the loaf to use as a lid.
Using your fingers, hollow out the inside of the rest of
the bread to leave just a shell.

Sprinkle the inside of the bread shell and the lid with
the garlic, then brush with 2 tablespoons of the olive
oil.

Layer the onion, tomatoes, cucumber, tuna, anchovies,
eggs, olives, oregano, basil and rocket into the bread
shell, seasoning with salt and pepper as you go (the
order does not really matter). Mix the remaining olive
oil with the vinegar and mustard in a small bowl and
then drizzle this dressing into the bread shell so it
trickles down over the filling. Top with the bread lid
and wrap the loaf tightly in kitchen foil.

Place in a baking tin and weigh down with a heavy pan or
a four pack of tinned tomatoes or similar. Leave in the
fridge overnight. Cut into wedges and serve.

Serves 6 - 8

By Rick Stein

RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbc.co.uk

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Title: Layered Picnic Loaves
Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese, Meats
Yield: 24 servings

2 Unsliced loaves (1 lb ea)
- Italian bread
1/4 c Olive oil
3 cl Garlic; minced
2 ts Italian seasoning; divided
1/2 lb Deli roast beef
12 sl (1 oz ea) mozzarella cheese
16 Fresh basil leaves
3 md Tomatoes; thin sliced
1/4 lb Thinly sliced salami
6 1/2 oz Jar marinated artichoke
- hearts; drained, sliced
10 oz Bag ready-to-serve salad
- greens
8 oz Thin sliced deli chicken
1 md Onion; thin sliced
1/4 ts Salt
1/8 ts Pepper

Cut loaves in half horizontally; hollow out tops and
bottoms, leaving 1/2' shells (discard removed bread
or save for another use).

Combine oil and garlic; brush inside bread shells.
Sprinkle with 1 teaspoon Italian seasoning. Layer bottom
of each loaf with a fourth of each: roast beef,
mozzarella, basil, tomatoes, salami, artichokes, salad
greens, chicken and onion. Repeat layers. Season with
salt, pepper and remaining Italian seasoning.

Drizzle with remaining oil mixture if desired. Replace
bread tops; wrap tightly and refrigerate at least 1 hour
before slicing.

Marion Lowery, Medford, Oregon

Makes: 2 loaves (12 servings each)

RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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Hi Dave,

How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when
all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any guardianship issues.

He was 14. So I raised/supervised/advised him for four years before he

An age where the right kind of supervision will turn the kid into a
good young man.

So long as he thought I was advising him on "how "to get away with"
stuff he paid attention.

Like how to get apples for apple pie? (G)

joined the Navy where he learned two widely divergent trades. Cooking
and underwater welding. He was running the kitchen at the Pensacola
Naval Air Station's officer's club when he fund that underwater

Sounds like he turned out well. Interesting that the Navy let him
pursue 2 such widely divergent career paths.

Whilst doing the Navy's version of KP he was a cook's helper and he
paid attention. Then his "A" school for training as a hull mantainence tech took him into a new class and taught him the underwater welding thing. And after graduation from that it was back to cook's helper
until his orders came through assigning him to a ship.

Unlike the Army where Steve went thru basic, language school and two
other schools, then assigned to Fort Hood and put right to work. He
spent the first 16 months of his enlistment in basic and schools.
Original plan was 4 years and out but the opportunity to go to Germany
for just short of 6 years made him decide to do 20. Then, at about
18.5 years in, came the chance to go to Hawaii where he got promoted and
wanted to do 3 years at that rank for a better retirement check. Four
years turned into 26.

Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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Title: Picnic Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
Yield: 10 Servings

I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so have
never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller
quantity.


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Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

Whilst doing the Navy's version of KP he was a cook's helper and he
paid attention. Then his "A" school for training as a hull mantainence tech took him into a new class and taught him the underwater welding thing. And after graduation from that it was back to cook's helper
until his orders came through assigning him to a ship.

Unlike the Army where Steve went thru basic, language school and two
other schools, then assigned to Fort Hood and put right to work. He
spent the first 16 months of his enlistment in basic and schools.
Original plan was 4 years and out but the opportunity to go to Germany
for just short of 6 years made him decide to do 20. Then, at about
18.5 years in, came the chance to go to Hawaii where he got promoted
and wanted to do 3 years at that rank for a better retirement check.
Four years turned into 26.

When my enlistment was nearly up I was receruted haavily to re-up. I'd
have been an E-7 before the end of the second hitch. But, I was (or I
thought I was) in love and didn't want to go to Pyrees Greece or Spain.
In retrospect I probably should have hung out for 30, took the pension
and had a second, civilian, career.

Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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Title: Picnic Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
Yield: 10 Servings

I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

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Title: Cauliflower Casserole
Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy, Grains
Yield: 8 servings

1 md Head cauliflower; in
- florets
1 c Sour cream
1 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
1/2 c Crushed Bran Flakes cereal
1/4 c Chopped bell pepper
1/4 c Chopped red bell pepper
1 ts Salt
1/4 c Grated Parmesan cheese
Paprika

Set oven @ 325ºF/165ºC.

Place 1" water in a saucepan; add cauliflower. Bring to
a boil. Reduce heat; cover and simmer until
crisp-tender, 5-10 minutes. Drain.

In a large bowl, combine cauliflower, sour cream,
cheddar cheese, cornflakes, peppers and salt; transfer
to a greased 2 qt. baking dish. Sprinkle with Parmesan
cheese and paprika.

Bake, uncovered, until heated through, 30-35 minutes.

Linda McGinty, Parma, Ohio

Makes: 8 servings

RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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Hi Dave,

Unlike the Army where Steve went thru basic, language school and two
other schools, then assigned to Fort Hood and put right to work. He
spent the first 16 months of his enlistment in basic and schools.
Original plan was 4 years and out but the opportunity to go to Germany
for just short of 6 years made him decide to do 20. Then, at about
18.5 years in, came the chance to go to Hawaii where he got promoted
and wanted to do 3 years at that rank for a better retirement check.
Four years turned into 26.

When my enlistment was nearly up I was receruted haavily to re-up. I'd have been an E-7 before the end of the second hitch. But, I was (or I thought I was) in love and didn't want to go to Pyrees Greece or
Spain. In retrospect I probably should have hung out for 30, took the pension
and had a second, civilian, career.

20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it but
the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and really
enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but he never
did deploy to a war zone.

Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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Title: Picnic Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
Yield: 10 Servings

I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.


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Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it
but the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and
really enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but
he never did deploy to a war zone.

All the "lifers" that I know are glad they did it.

Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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Title: Picnic Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
Yield: 10 Servings

I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.

Or Ritz crackers if you don't want the extra salt that comes w/tater
chips.

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Title: Baked Mashed Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Dairy, Cheese, Vegetables
Yield: 4 Servings

2 lb Potatoes; peeled, quartered
1/4 c Milk
1/2 ts Salt
2 tb Butter; melted, divided
1 lg Egg; beaten
8 oz Dairy sour cream
1 c Small-curd cottage cheese
5 Green onions; fine chopped
1/2 c Crushed butter-flavored Ritz
- style crackers

Cook potatoes until tender; drain. Place in a large bowl.
Add milk, salt and 1 Tbsp butter; beat until light and
fluffy. Fold in egg, sour cream, cottage cheese and
onions. Place in a greased 1 1/2-qt baking dish.

Combine the cracker crumbs and remaining butter; sprinkle
over potato mixture.

Bake, uncovered, at 350oF/175oC for 20-30 mintues or until
crumbs are lightly browned.

Recipe By: Darlis Wilfer - ToH Oct/Nov 95

From: Sean Coate

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Hi Dave,

20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it
but the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and
really enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but
he never did deploy to a war zone.

All the "lifers" that I know are glad they did it.

It's a steady job with little (but some) chance of a lay off. If you go
in young enough, you'll retire with enough years yet for a 2nd career
and have 2 retirement checks. Steve didn't do that but with Social
Security, retirement and disability pay, we're able to meet our bills
and have a bit left over.

Title: Picnic Potatoes
Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
Yield: 10 Servings

I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.

Or Ritz crackers if you don't want the extra salt that comes w/tater chips.

True, there's usually a work around for most anything if you look hard
enough.


---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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