Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

I'll bet my grandmother heaved a big sigh of relief when Holsum Bread
in St. Louis (50 miles away) began selling pre-sliced, wrapped loaves
of bread in 1928. I wasn't there to see it. But, I know haw she worked.

Yes, it is a bit of work to make bread, especially by hand (I now use
my KA mixer) as I used to do 8 loaves at a time. Mixer only does 2 but
it saves a lot of wear & tear on my hands and wrists.

I use the bread machine - but bake it in the "real" oven.

I usually use the bread machine for pizza crust, rolls, etc. Used to
use it all the time for bread but then got the KA.

I gave my nice KA to mt brother and his bride when theirs rolled snake
eyes. When I bought this house I decided it was time to get a nice mixer
to help with some of my big ideas. Best Buy had a big "open box" sale on
and I bought a Cuisinart. It's a pretty good mixer and certainly worth
what I paid - but I'm getting lazy as I age out so it sits, covered up
most of the time. Bv)=

Fortunalety I am well controlled enough that I can aschew the fake
sugar (except in soda). But I do use it if making things for others
....

I use it straight in a few things, sometimes will do half and half,
stevia and sugar for baking. The stevia for baking measures the same as sugar but we found that using all stevia would leave a bitter after
taste. Cutting it half and half with sugar didn't leave the aftertaste
and reduced the carbs by a good amount.

Sugar Twin works about the same way - but I've never had a bitter aftertaste. Saccharine used to give me a bitter-bite bsck in the day before they over- dosed all those lab rats and gave them cancer. Bv)=

But, that's odd because ST is mostlu saccharine and Stevia is
"natural".

That is a head scratcher. (G)

Probably a "propietary secret". And one they don't want the EPA (as it
was pre-Trump) to know about.

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Title: Donald Trump Beef Steak
Categories: Beef, Herbs, I scream
Yield: 1 serving

1 lb Beef steak
Salt & pepper
2 tbs Olive oil
1 ts Garlic powder
1 ts Onion powder
1 ts Smoked paprika
1 ts Dried thyme
1/2 c Vanilla ice cream

Heat a skillet over medium-high heat.

Season both sides of the steak with salt and pepper.

In a bowl, mix together the olive oil, garlic powder,
onion powder, smoked paprika, and dried thyme.

Rub this mixture all over the steak, making sure to coat
it evenly.

Once the skillet is hot, place the steak in the skillet
and cook for 3-4 minutes on each side, or until it is
cooked to your desired level of doneness.

When the steak is co oked, remove it from the pan and
place it on a plate.

Take a scoop of vanilla ice cream and place it on top of
the steak, allowing it to melt slightly.

Serve immediately, and enjoy the perfect combination of
juicy beef and sweet, creamy ice cream.

Note: If you're feeling particularly adventurous, try
experimenting with different flavors of ice cream. Who
knows? Maybe strawberry or chocolate ice cream will be
the next big thing in steak toppings!

UDD NOTE: Are we sure that MAGA doesn't stand for "Make
America Gag Again"???

RECIPE FROM: https://what-the-chef.com/

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Re: Bread was: Maple Syrple
By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 04 2025 11:24:00

Title: Donald Trump Beef Steak

Speaking of oddball food:

I read about the rumors of immigrants eating the cats in Springfield, IL.

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Title: Stuffed Cat
Categories: Game, Vegetables, Breads, Herbs
Yield: 4 Servings

2 Cats; skinned, cleaned *
2 oz Butter
2 oz Flour
10 fl Stock
2 c Bread crumbs
1 lg Onion
2 lg Cooking apples
2 tb Parsley
1 ts Dried thyme
1 tb Sugar
1 ts Salt
1 oz Butter
1 lg Egg
Fresh ground pepper

* As with all cat recipes, rabbit may be substituted if
a suitable moggy is not handy.

Wash and dry cats. Chop onions and fry gently in 2 oz
of the butter. Peel apples and chop; add to onions and
fry until soft. Mix onions, apple and butter with all
other stuffing ingredients, and brown quickly in
remaining butter.

Place cats in a casserole, stuff, surround with excess
stuffing, add well-seasoned stock, and cook for
1-3/4 hours, or until tender @ 350?F/175?C.

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Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

Title: Donald Trump Beef Steak

Speaking of oddball food:

I read about the rumors of immigrants eating the cats in Springfield,
IL.

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Title: Stuffed Cat
Categories: Game, Vegetables, Breads, Herbs
Yield: 4 Servings

Not rumours. Truth. Not just Springfield and not just Illinois. I am
sure that I've eaten cat more than once. When we moved here in 1954 we
had a neighbourhood grocery store/butcher and my dad would buy "rabbit"
a couple of time a month.

Then came the big ***SCANDAL*** that cat was being sold as rabbit at a
number of grocery stores throughout Illinois. And the store near us was
named as a ring-leader.

It led to passage of a law that domestic rabbit offered for sale must
be sold withb the hind feet attacked. Seems that once the animal is
dressed out nfor sale the only differences in appearance are the rear
legs. There is a difference in the scapula (shoulder blade) but you'll
have to "eat down" to it to check.

So, yeah. That's an "urban legend" that is fact.

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Title: Cat Sausage
Categories: Game, Pork, Chilies, Herbs, Dairy
Yield: 12 Servings

2 1/2 lb Ready-to-cook cat meat
1 1/2 lb Fatty boneless pork shoulder
1/4 ts Ground cumin
1/4 ts Ground coriander
1/8 ts Freshly grated nutmeg
1/8 ts Cayenne pepper
Salt & fresh ground pepper
3/4 c Heavy cream

It is best to prepare these sausages at least one day in
advance and refrigerate until ready to cook.

Cut the meat from the cat bones and cut away and discard
any membranes or fibers. Cut the meat into 1" cubes. There
should be about 2 1/2 pounds of meat. Put the meat into a
mixing bowl.

Cut the pork into 1" cubes. Add the pork to the cat meat.
Add the remaining ingredients except the cream. Blend
well.

If using a sausage stuffer, put half the mixture into the
container of a food processor and blend slightly finer
than hamburger meat, gradually adding half the cream.
Repeat with the remaining meat mixture and cream and
combine the two batches. Blend well with the fingers.
Follow the manufacturer's instructions for filling the
sausage casings. If using a meat grinder and stuffer,
follow the manufacturer's instructions for stuffing the
casings. When the filling has been added, pinch off the
casings and tie each end. Tie a piece of string at 5" or
6" intervals. There should be 11 or 12 sausages. Wrap
the sausages in clear plastic wrap and refrigerate
overnight.

When ready to cook, cut off as many lengths as desired.
Prick each sausage all over, forming pin-sized holes.
Grill or broil the sausages, turning as necessary, about
15 minutes or until done. Or set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.
Place the sausages in a skillet and add 1/8" water.
Bring the water to a boil and place the skillet in the
oven. Bake 15 to 20 minutes, turning occasionally, until
the sausages are done.

YIELD: 11 to 12 sausages

Recipe by Events Section, New York Times (adapted)

From: http://events.nytimes.com/recipes

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Re: Bread was: Maple Syrple
By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Sat Jul 05 2025 10:31:00

I read about the rumors of immigrants eating the cats in Springfield,
IL.

Not rumours. Truth. Not just Springfield and not just Illinois. I am
sure that I've eaten cat more than once. When we moved here in 1954 we
had a neighbourhood grocery store/butcher and my dad would buy "rabbit"
a couple of time a month.

Intresting! I read a memoir, i forget which, where a trapper would bring
in racoons and such and sell them to restaurants in downtown Portland, OR,
who would serve it to their customers as chicken. The writer acknowledged
that it sounded like a myth, but said that he did this many times over
multiple years and it helped him make ends meet during slow times.

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Title: Beer Roasted Cat
Categories: Cat, Game
Yield: 1 Batch

1 Cat; cut into roast
1 cn Cream of mushroom soup
1 Beef bouillon cube
1 cl Garlic
1 Irish stout

Get a large cutting board and lay out your cat. Lop off the head, the
tail, and the feet with a sharp butcher's knife. These parts of the
cat contain little usable meat, so give them to the dog.

Make a longitudinal incision on the cat's abdomen. Reach your hand
into the body cavity, and remove all of the internal organs. Discard
them--especially the liver. It may look tasty, but the liver of a
felis domesticus is frequently too toxic for human consumption.

Time to skin. As the saying goes, there's more than one way to do it,
but the basic advice is to use a sharp knife to trim off the skin,
and pull it back, snipping away at the muscle tissue. Alternatively,
grab some loose skin near the head stump and, using a pair of pliers,
peel it back off the carcass like a banana or like how you'd skin an
eel, rolling it off the body.

Wash the meat of stray gristle and hairs.

Pour yourself a drink.

Cover and soak cat roast in salt water for 24 hours. Drain water and
then cover and soak in beer for 6 hours. Drain and place in crock pot
with your cans of soup. Add a clove of garlic, and a cube of beef
bouillon. If you start to slow cook your cat in the morning with your
George Foreman Cooker or it's ilk, you'll have finely cooked feline
in time for supper.

If a slow cooker is not available, a cat can be baked at 350?F
(170?C) for 2 to 3 hours in a conventional oven and still come out
pretty good. Beer Roasted Cat is fantastic served with mashed
potatoes, collard greens, and fresh, homemade egg rolls. When
planning a full meal just remember--cat is a course best served
hot!

Cat may not be the most glamorous, or tastiest of game meats, but
with a little thought and preparation, Baked Cat can make the belly
of the persnicketiest diner glow with home baked goodness.

Variation:

Instead of using cream of mushroom soup, try using 1 chili and 2 tb
grated ginger.

Recipe by Jason Goroncy

Recipe FROM:
<https://jasongoroncy.com/2010/12/10/main-course-felis-domesticus/>

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Hi Dave,

I use the bread machine - but bake it in the "real" oven.

I usually use the bread machine for pizza crust, rolls, etc. Used to
use it all the time for bread but then got the KA.

I gave my nice KA to mt brother and his bride when theirs rolled snake eyes. When I bought this house I decided it was time to get a nice
mixer to help with some of my big ideas. Best Buy had a big "open box" sale on and I bought a Cuisinart. It's a pretty good mixer and
certainly worth
what I paid - but I'm getting lazy as I age out so it sits, covered up most of the time. Bv)=

We debated getting a Cuisinart but a sale on KA at the Fort Stewart (GA)
PX when we were in Savannah tipped the scale to that one. Also, using
Janis's mixer at the picnic in 2008 convinced us, got a KA Professional.
I'd tried our daughter's 5 qt mixer and was less than impressed but the
6 qt Professional is a whole different ball game.

But, that's odd because ST is mostlu saccharine and Stevia is
"natural".

That is a head scratcher. (G)

Probably a "propietary secret". And one they don't want the EPA (as it
was pre-Trump) to know about.

Could be, but I'm not losing sleep over it.


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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

I use the bread machine - but bake it in the "real" oven.

I usually use the bread machine for pizza crust, rolls, etc. Used to
use it all the time for bread but then got the KA.

I gave my nice KA to mt brother and his bride when theirs rolled snake eyes. When I bought this house I decided it was time to get a nice
mixer to help with some of my big ideas. Best Buy had a big "open box" sale on and I bought a Cuisinart. It's a pretty good mixer and
certainly worth what I paid - but I'm getting lazy as I age out
so it sits, covered up most of the time. Bv)=

We debated getting a Cuisinart but a sale on KA at the Fort Stewart
(GA) PX when we were in Savannah tipped the scale to that one. Also,
using Janis's mixer at the picnic in 2008 convinced us, got a KA Professional. I'd tried our daughter's 5 qt mixer and was less than impressed but the 6 qt Professional is a whole different ball game.

There's worlds of difference between the tilt-head and lift-bowl Kitchen
Aid mixers. Both the KA i gave to Ms. Vicky and my current Cuisinart are
"fixed head" machines.

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Title: Weeknight Lazy Lasagna
Categories: Five, Pasta, Cheese, Sauces
Yield: 6 servings

8 oz Uncooked lasagna noodles;
- broken in 2" pieces
1 c Ricotta cheese
1 c Shredded mozzarella cheese;
- divided
1/3 c Grated Parmesan cheese
24 oz Jar pasta sauce w/meat

Set oven @ 400ºF/205ºC.

Cook lasagna noodles according to package directions.
Meanwhile, in a large bowl, mix ricotta cheese, 1/2 cup
mozzarella cheese and Parmesan cheese. Drain noodles
well; stir into cheese mixture.

Spread 1 cup pasta sauce into a greased 11" X 7" baking
dish. Layer with half of the noodle mixture and 1 cup
sauce; layer with the remaining noodle mixture and
sauce. Sprinkle with remaining cheese.

Cover with greased foil; bake until heated through,
10-15 minutes.

Nancy Foust, Stoneboro, Pennsylvania

Makes: 6 servings

RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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Hi Dave,

We debated getting a Cuisinart but a sale on KA at the Fort Stewart
(GA) PX when we were in Savannah tipped the scale to that one. Also,
using Janis's mixer at the picnic in 2008 convinced us, got a KA Professional. I'd tried our daughter's 5 qt mixer and was less than impressed but the 6 qt Professional is a whole different ball game.

There's worlds of difference between the tilt-head and lift-bowl
Kitchen Aid mixers. Both the KA i gave to Ms. Vicky and my current Cuisinart are "fixed head" machines.

Mine is the bowl lift model also. Rachel has the tilt head; she likes it
but it wasn't heavy duty enough for me.

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