• text reformating

    From Grant Weasner@1:138/397 to All on Mon May 19 01:24:03 2025
    Hello all.

    I'm wondering what others think about linux a text formating task I'm trying to solve.

    I've got lots of older howtos from the old web, and stuff I've also wrote.

    I want to convert all of my text files in many directories into a gopher fiendly format.

    Gopher friendly:
    1) 64 columns wide.
    2) any indents will remain, but if a line goes beyond 64 cols, the remaining characters will go to the line below but indent to the same column as the prior line.


    This seems pretty difficult and I'm wondering how others would approch this task.

    I'm thinking of just writing a python script using basic python modules.

    But I'm wondering if there are just native linux tools that would work as good or better.

    EXAMPLE TEXT BELOW
    -------------------------------------------------------

    $ ssh skinner "dd if=/dev/sda5 | gzip -1 -" | dd of=image.gz
    208782+0 records in
    208782+0 records out
    106896384 bytes (107 MB) copied, 22.7608 seconds, 4.7 MB/s
    116749+1 records in
    116749+1 records out
    59775805 bytes (60 MB) copied, 23.9154 s, 2.5 MB/s

    $ ll | grep image.gz
    -rw-rw-r--. 1 saml saml 59775805 May 31 01:03 image.gz

    Methods for monitoring?

    11.Login via ssh in another terminal and ls -l the file to see what it's size is.
    22.You can use pv to monitor the progress of a large dd operation, for instance, for the remote example above, you can do:

    $ dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -1 - | pv | ssh user@local dd of=image.gz

    33.Send a "SIGUSR1" signal to dd and it will print stats. Something like:

    $ pkill -USR1 dd
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Grant Weasner on Mon May 19 08:34:30 2025
    Grant Weasner wrote to All <=-

    Hello all.

    I'm wondering what others think about linux a text formating task I'm trying to solve.

    I've got lots of older howtos from the old web, and stuff I've also
    wrote.

    I want to convert all of my text files in many directories into a
    gopher fiendly format.

    Gopher friendly:
    1) 64 columns wide.
    2) any indents will remain, but if a line goes beyond 64 cols, the remaining characters will go to the line below but indent to the same column as the prior line.


    This seems pretty difficult and I'm wondering how others would approch this task.

    I'm thinking of just writing a python script using basic python
    modules.

    But I'm wondering if there are just native linux tools that would work
    as good or better.

    <SNIP>

    man fold



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  • From Grant Weasner@1:138/397 to Dan Clough on Mon May 19 11:48:11 2025
    Re: Re: text reformating
    By: Dan Clough to Grant Weasner on Mon May 19 2025 08:34:30

    Grant Weasner wrote to All <=-

    Hello all.

    I'm wondering what others think about linux a text formating task I'm trying to solve.

    I've got lots of older howtos from the old web, and stuff I've also wrote.

    I want to convert all of my text files in many directories into a gopher fiendly format.

    Gopher friendly:
    1) 64 columns wide.
    2) any indents will remain, but if a line goes beyond 64 cols, the remaining characters will go to the line below but
    indent
    to the same column as the prior line.


    This seems pretty difficult and I'm wondering how others would approch this task.

    I'm thinking of just writing a python script using basic python modules.

    But I'm wondering if there are just native linux tools that would work as good or better.

    <SNIP>

    man fold

    Thanks Dan.

    fold -sw 64 file.txt

    -s = break on spaces
    -w width of text
    ---------------------

    Fold produced pretty good results, and very quick. It does doesn't add indents to the prior linae, but still pretty good.

    I think this will work well. I really was trying to get any break that had an indent on the prior line would have to concatenate the line below then indent every line beolw until it sees a line where there is no indent. This is pretty difficult. Fun project but time consuming.

    The EXAMPLE AFTER text looks more like paragraphs, which is still nice.

    There are some areas of that document that get really mangled where there are two columns of text. I hadn't really though of how to deal with that.

    Something like:
    1) here is a left area of text * here is a right area of text
    2) here is a left area of text * here is a right area of text

    So I think I've added even more complexity. :( :)


    EXAMPLE BEFORE:
    ---------------------------

    # cat /etc/anacrontab
    7 15 test.daily /bin/sh /home/sathiya/backup.sh

    START_HOURS_RANGE and RANDOM_DELAY

    The above example indicates that the backup.sh script should be executed every day, with a delay of 15 mins. i.e When the laptop was started, executed it only after 15 minutes.

    EXAMPLE AFTER:
    ---------------------------

    # cat /etc/anacrontab
    7 15 test.daily /bin/sh /home/sathiya/backup.sh

    START_HOURS_RANGE and RANDOM_DELAY

    The above example indicates that the backup.sh script should
    be executed every day, with a delay of 15 mins. i.e When the
    laptop was started, executed it only after 15 minutes.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dan Clough on Mon May 19 18:41:09 2025
    Dan Clough wrote to Grant Weasner <=-

    man fold

    fold is an amazing utility. Very helpful with text files.

    When I was publishing th FidoGazette, I used fold a lot in reformatting,

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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to All on Mon May 19 21:10:44 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 20:54:16 -0500
    "Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <Dan.Clough@f115.n135.z1.fidonet> wrote:

    Sean Dennis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Dan Clough wrote to Grant Weasner <=-

    man fold

    fold is an amazing utility. Very helpful with text files.

    Indeed it is. A classic *nix utility - do one thing, and do it well.

    When I was publishing th FidoGazette, I used fold a lot in
    reformatting,

    Yes, very handy for making "wide" stuff fit on a 80x25 character
    screen. :-)

    So many useful, and maybe not so useful utilities out there.

    paste, will take 2 or more files and put them next to each other, like
    a sideways cat :)

    Talking of cat, there is also tac which will display a file from the
    bottom up.

    ncal is like cat but with the days down the side.

    To randomly shuffle the lines of a text file you can pipe it into shuf

    fmt is another text processor similar to, but different from fold.
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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Grant Weasner on Mon May 19 20:33:48 2025
    Hej Grant!

    ----- example.text
    The above example indicates that the backup.sh script should be executed every day, with a delay of 15 mins. i.e When the laptop was started, executed it only after 15 minutes.

    For the above line (paragraph) this will work;

    $ sed 's/^ *//' example.text | fold -sw 61 | sed 's/^/ /'
    The above example indicates that the backup.sh script should
    be executed every day, with a delay of 15 mins. i.e When the
    laptop was started, executed it only after 15 minutes.

    Note that the width is 61 characters before tacking on the indentation of three spaces. Also note that the width is characters ***NOT*** bytes.

    $ trans -b -no-ansi -t ukrainian -i example.text | fold -sw 61 | sed 's/^/ /'
    Наведений вище приклад вказує на те, що сценарій резервного
    копіювання.Sh повинен виконуватись щодня, із затримкою 15
    хвилин. тобто, коли ноутбук був запущений, виконував його
    лише через 15 хвилин.

    If the application you are using to read this is utf8 capable you will note that the translation is still counting 16 bit characters (Cyrillic) as one. To get fold to wrap bytes then add the -b switch to fold since the default is characters. For strictly 7 and 8 bit characters, -b and -c are the same.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Sean Dennis on Mon May 19 20:54:16 2025
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Dan Clough wrote to Grant Weasner <=-

    man fold

    fold is an amazing utility. Very helpful with text files.

    Indeed it is. A classic *nix utility - do one thing, and do it well.

    When I was publishing th FidoGazette, I used fold a lot in
    reformatting,

    Yes, very handy for making "wide" stuff fit on a 80x25 character screen.
    :-)



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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Grant Weasner on Wed May 21 00:53:25 2025
    On 19 May 2025 at 01:24a, Grant Weasner pondered and said...

    I want to convert all of my text files in many directories into a gopher fiendly format.

    Gopher friendly:
    1) 64 columns wide.
    2) any indents will remain, but if a line goes beyond 64 cols, the remaining characters will go to the line below but indent to the same column as the prior line.

    This seems pretty difficult and I'm wondering how others would approch this task.

    `fmt` or `par`.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Nigel Reed on Tue May 20 08:16:35 2025
    Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

    Dan Clough wrote to Grant Weasner <=-

    man fold

    fold is an amazing utility. Very helpful with text files.

    Indeed it is. A classic *nix utility - do one thing, and do it well.

    When I was publishing th FidoGazette, I used fold a lot in reformatting,

    Yes, very handy for making "wide" stuff fit on a 80x25 character
    screen. :-)

    So many useful, and maybe not so useful utilities out there.

    paste, will take 2 or more files and put them next to each other, like
    a sideways cat :)

    Talking of cat, there is also tac which will display a file from the bottom up.

    ncal is like cat but with the days down the side.

    To randomly shuffle the lines of a text file you can pipe it into shuf

    fmt is another text processor similar to, but different from fold.

    Nice! Didn't know about a couple of those, thanks.



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  • From Grant Weasner@1:138/397 to Sean Dennis on Fri May 23 18:57:51 2025
    Re: Re: text reformating
    By: Sean Dennis to Dan Clough on Mon May 19 2025 18:41:09

    Dan Clough wrote to Grant Weasner <=-

    man fold

    fold is an amazing utility. Very helpful with text files.

    When I was publishing th FidoGazette, I used fold a lot in reformatting,

    Thanks for all how replied.

    I'm still working on how I'm going format all the strange "info" files I've collected over the years.

    fold works great for some stuff. fold with sed helps too, but I've got some requirements that seem to require some programming. In my spare time (between feeds with twins) I've been slowly working at it.

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Grant Weasner on Sat May 24 03:00:31 2025
    Hey Grant!

    I'm still working on how I'm going format all the strange "info"
    files I've collected over the years.

    Have you looked at makeinfo, which comes with the texinfo package? 'makeinfo --help' reports 'makeinfo --plaintext foo.texi' which offhand looks to me what you're looking for.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Grant Weasner on Sat May 24 15:01:28 2025
    * Originally by: Maurice Kinal (1:153/7001), 24 May 25 03:00.

    Hello Grant!

    24 May 25 03:00, Maurice Kinal wrote to Grant Weasner:


    Have you looked at makeinfo, which comes with the texinfo package? 'makeinfo --help' reports 'makeinfo --plaintext foo.texi' which
    offhand looks to me what you're looking for.

    There is usually a command named "texi2any" (along with texi2dvi and texi2pdf) installed with the texinfo package that does exactly this.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Gerrit Kuehn on Tue May 27 22:04:26 2025
    Hey Gerrit!

    There is usually a command named "texi2any"

    On my systems "makeinfo" is a symlink to "texi2any". The little I've used it directly would explain why I posted it as "makeinfo".

    installed with the texinfo package that does exactly this.

    I would hope so! Something would be amiss if that weren't true.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Grant Weasner on Wed May 28 15:03:50 2025
    Hello Grant!

    19 May 25, Grant Weasner wrote to All:

    Gopher friendly:
    1) 64 columns wide.
    2) any indents will remain, but if a line goes beyond 64 cols, the remaining characters will go to the line below but indent to the same column as the prior line.

    This seems pretty difficult and I'm wondering how others would
    approch this task.

    Indent to the same column as the prior line - that sounds like the man manpages layout?

    If yes then you may like to peek into the manpage display processes for more hints.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Kai Richter on Fri May 30 01:44:49 2025
    Hey Kai!

    <standard input>:128: warning: table wider than line length minus indentation man‐pages(7) Miscellaneous Information Manual man‐pages(7)

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    .EX
    int
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    {
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    }
    .EE
    .in
    .P

    Preferred terms
    The following table lists some preferred terms to use in
    man pages, mainly to ensure consistency across pages.
    Term Avoid using Notes
    ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
    bit mask bitmask
    built‐in builtin
    Epoch epoch For the UNIX
    Epoch
    (00:00:00, 1
    Jan 1970 UTC)
    filename file name
    filesystem file system
    hostname host name
    inode i‐node
    lowercase lower case, lower‐case
    nonzero non‐zero
    pathname path name
    pseudoterminal pseudo‐terminal
    privileged port reserved port, system
    port
    real‐time realtime, real time
    run time runtime
    saved set‐group‐ID saved group ID, saved
    set‐GID
    saved set‐user‐ID saved user ID, saved
    set‐UID
    set‐group‐ID set‐GID, setgid
    set‐user‐ID set‐UID, setuid
    superuser super user, super‐user
    superblock super block, super‐
    block
    symbolic link symlink
    timestamp time stamp
    timezone time zone
    uppercase upper case, upper‐case
    usable useable
    user space userspace
    username user name
    x86‐64 x86_64 Except if re‐
    ferring to
    result of
    "uname -m" or
    similar
    zeros zeroes

    See also the discussion Hyphenation of attributive com‐
    pounds below.

    Terms to avoid
    The following table lists some terms to avoid using in
    man pages, along with some suggested alternatives,
    mainly to ensure consistency across pages.
    Avoid Use instead Notes
    ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────

    32bit 32‐bit same for 8‐bit,
    16‐bit, etc.
    current process calling process A common mistake
    made by kernel
    programmers when
    writing man
    pages
    manpage man page, manual
    page
    minus infinity negative infinity
    non‐root unprivileged user
    non‐superuser unprivileged user
    nonprivileged unprivileged
    OS operating system
    plus infinity positive infinity
    pty pseudoterminal
    tty terminal
    Unices UNIX systems
    Unixes UNIX systems

    Trademarks
    Use the correct spelling and case for trademarks. The
    following is a list of the correct spellings of various
    relevant trademarks that are sometimes misspelled:

    DG/UX
    HP‐UX
    UNIX
    UnixWare

    NULL, NUL, null pointer, and null byte
    A null pointer is a pointer that points to nothing, and
    is normally indicated by the constant NULL. On the
    other hand, NUL is the null byte, a byte with the value
    0, represented in C via the character constant '\0'.

    The preferred term for the pointer is "null pointer" or
    simply "NULL"; avoid writing "NULL pointer".

    The preferred term for the byte is "null byte". Avoid
    writing "NUL", since it is too easily confused with
    "NULL". Avoid also the terms "zero byte" and "null
    character". The byte that terminates a C string should
    be described as "the terminating null byte"; strings may
    be described as "null‐terminated", but avoid the use of
    "NUL‐terminated".

    Hyperlinks
    For hyperlinks, use the .UR/.UE macro pair (see
    groff_man(7)). This produces proper hyperlinks that can
    be used in a web browser, when rendering a page with,
    say:

    BROWSER=firefox man ‐H pagename

    Use of e.g., i.e., etc., a.k.a., and similar
    In general, the use of abbreviations such as "e.g.",
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    in favor of suitable full wordings ("for example", "that
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    The only place where such abbreviations may be accept‐
    able is in short parenthetical asides (e.g., like this
    one).

    Always include periods in such abbreviations, as shown
    here. In addition, "e.g." and "i.e." should always be
    followed by a comma.

    Em‐dashes
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    "\[em]". (On an ASCII terminal, an em‐dash typically
    renders as two hyphens, but in other typographical con‐
    texts it renders as a long dash.) Em‐dashes should be
    written without surrounding spaces.

    Hyphenation of attributive compounds
    Compound terms should be hyphenated when used attribu‐
    tively (i.e., to qualify a following noun). Some exam‐
    ples:

    32‐bit value
    command‐line argument
    floating‐point number
    run‐time check
    user‐space function
    wide‐character string

    Hyphenation with multi, non, pre, re, sub, and so on
    The general tendency in modern English is not to hyphen‐
    ate after prefixes such as "multi", "non", "pre", "re",
    "sub", and so on. Manual pages should generally follow
    this rule when these prefixes are used in natural Eng‐
    lish constructions with simple suffixes. The following
    list gives some examples of the preferred forms:

    interprocess
    multithreaded
    multiprocess
    nonblocking
    nondefault
    nonempty
    noninteractive
    nonnegative
    nonportable
    nonzero
    preallocated
    precreate
    prerecorded
    reestablished
    reinitialize
    rearm
    reread
    subcomponent
    subdirectory
    subsystem

    Hyphens should be retained when the prefixes are used in
    nonstandard English words, with trademarks, proper
    nouns, acronyms, or compound terms. Some examples:

    non‐ASCII
    non‐English
    non‐NULL
    non‐real‐time

    Finally, note that "re‐create" and "recreate" are two
    different verbs, and the former is probably what you
    want.

    Generating optimal glyphs
    Where a real minus character is required (e.g., for num‐
    bers such as -1, for man page cross references such as
    utf-8(7), or when writing options that have a leading
    dash, such as in ls -l), use the following form in the
    man page source:

    \-

    This guideline applies also to code examples.

    The use of real minus signs serves the following pur‐
    poses:

    • To provide better renderings on various targets other
    than ASCII terminals, notably in PDF and on Uni‐
    code/UTF-8‐capable terminals.

    • To generate glyphs that when copied from rendered
    pages will produce real minus signs when pasted into
    a terminal.

    To produce unslanted single quotes that render well in
    ASCII, UTF‐8, and PDF, use "\[aq]" ("apostrophe quote");
    for example

    \[aq]C\[aq]

    where C is the quoted character. This guideline applies
    also to character constants used in code examples.

    Where a proper caret (^) that renders well in both a
    terminal and PDF is required, use "\[ha]". This is es‐
    pecially necessary in code samples, to get a nicely ren‐
    dered caret when rendering to PDF.

    Using a naked "~" character results in a poor rendering
    in PDF. Instead use "\[ti]". This is especially neces‐
    sary in code samples, to get a nicely rendered tilde
    when rendering to PDF.

    Example programs and shell sessions
    Manual pages may include example programs demonstrating
    how to use a system call or library function. However,
    note the following:

    • Example programs should be written in C.

    • An example program is necessary and useful only if it
    demonstrates something beyond what can easily be pro‐
    vided in a textual description of the interface. An
    example program that does nothing other than call an
    interface usually serves little purpose.

    • Example programs should ideally be short (e.g., a
    good example can often be provided in less than 100
    lines of code), though in some cases longer programs
    may be necessary to properly illustrate the use of an
    API.

    • Expressive code is appreciated.

    • Comments should included where helpful. Complete
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    nated by a period. Periods should generally be omit‐
    ted in "tag" comments (i.e., comments that are placed
    on the same line of code); such comments are in any
    case typically brief phrases rather than complete
    sentences.

    • Example programs should do error checking after sys‐
    tem calls and library function calls.

    • Example programs should be complete, and compile
    without warnings when compiled with cc -Wall.

    • Where possible and appropriate, example programs
    should allow experimentation, by varying their behav‐
    ior based on inputs (ideally from command‐line argu‐
    ments, or alternatively, via input read by the pro‐
    gram).

    • Example programs should be laid out according to
    Kernighan and Ritchie style, with 4‐space indents.
    (Avoid the use of TAB characters in source code!)
    The following command can be used to format your
    source code to something close to the preferred
    style:

    indent -npro -kr -i4 -ts4 -sob -l72 -ss -nut -psl prog.c

    • For consistency, all example programs should termi‐
    nate using either of:

    exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
    exit(EXIT_FAILURE);

    Avoid using the following forms to terminate a pro‐
    gram:

    exit(0);
    exit(1);
    return n;

    • If there is extensive explanatory text before the
    program source code, mark off the source code with a
    subsection heading Program source, as in:

    .SS Program source

    Always do this if the explanatory text includes a
    shell session log.

    If you include a shell session log demonstrating the use
    of a program or other system feature:

    • Place the session log above the source code listing.

    • Indent the session log by four spaces.

    • Boldface the user input text, to distinguish it from
    output produced by the system.

    For some examples of what example programs should look
    like, see wait(2) and pipe(2).

    EXAMPLES
    For canonical examples of how man pages in the man‐pages
    package should look, see pipe(2) and fcntl(2).

    SEE ALSO
    man(1), man2html(1), attributes(7), groff(7),
    groff_man(7), man(7), mdoc(7)

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    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 31 00:17:52 2025
    Hi Maurice,

    30 May 25, Maurice Kinal wrote to Kai Richter:

    Hey Kai!
    Maurice

    Within the first readable lines i could guess that you posted the result of the subject lines command. Some of the command sequences messed up my old fido installation completly and makes the output useless for me.

    Regards

    Kai


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    * Origin: Monobox (2:240/77)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Kai Richter on Fri May 30 23:36:08 2025
    Hey Kai!

    Within the first readable lines i could guess that you posted the
    result of the subject lines command.

    That is correct except I added a few items to the commandline to redirect it into vim. It gives the same result as it does straight to the terminal.

    Some of the command sequences messed up my old fido installation
    completly and makes the output useless for me.

    I probably should have posted it the usual way ...

    <Esc>:read !MANWIDTH=64 man man-pages | col -bx

    not that it would have mattered unless you're using vim as your fidonet editor. From a commandline I would also pipe it through less. The result is exactly the same.

    I was toying with the idea of making something like this a method of posting differing documentation in fidonet echoareas but now that I see it I am not all that keen, especially given your result.

    Note the first line of the resulting packed MSG reads, "<standard input>:128: warning: table wider than line length minus indentation". I suspect that MANWIDTH=80 is probably a better choice. I also suspect that the 64 column width was intended for smart devices with limited display real estate (columns x lines). If so then I am even less interested in making something like this work given my utter distain for smart devices.

    I apoplogize for not anticipating your fido installation's incompatibilty with modern gnu-linux tools.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 31 00:13:45 2025
    Hej Maurice!

    MANWIDTH=72 man man-pages | col -bx

    works without error. 72 makes perfect sense for backwards compatibilty with ye olde line printers and the such. It definetly works for standard FTN MSGs.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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