Aug wrote --

(Never have understood how my eating helps them).

You are not eating *for* them or to help *them*. Your eating is a lesson of

privilege, good fortune, humility and possibly humbleness?

Those ideas never crossed my mind when a kid and had the thought how does that help them.
As a teenager and adult I am well aware of my many blessings.

Some classes will need to be on campus such as chemistry, and other

hands-on classes. But for things like history, English, etc will be on line.

In the liberal arts, actual "Art" would still need a building: painting,

sculture, etc..

That's why I didn't write everything can be done online.

Same thing with medicine. They would still need labs.

See below.

To me an open book test doesn't test if the student knows the answer

but how to look up the answer.

In some cases people need to know in their head whatever.
I wouldn't want a doctor saying "Oh, this person has these symptoms. Let
me check the book to know what it is and what to do".
Same with someone playing around with various chemicals. Or designing/erecting a building, bridge, etc.
This is one reason I so dislike true/false answers. Its a 50/50 guess. Doesn't really tell anyone anything how they got to that answer.
Joe
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Hello JOE!

** 15.04.20 - 06:53, JOE MACKEY wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

In some cases people need to know in their head whatever. I wouldn't
want a doctor saying "Oh, this person has these symptoms. Let me
check the book to know what it is and what to do".

Those that "know in their head" are probably quite few. Personally, I
would respect a doctor who *would* consult official documentation on a matter. ;)

Same with someone playing around with various chemicals.

I can imagine what might go wrong there! LOL

Or designing/erecting a building, bridge, etc.

Yes.. But engineers must rely on their ability to look up stuff (charts, standards, blue prints, etc)

This is one reason I so dislike true/false answers. Its a 50/50 guess.
Doesn't really tell anyone anything how they got to that answer.

Totally. 50/50 is not a good way to test knowledge.


../|ug

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Aug wrote--

Those that "know in their head" are probably quite few. Personally, I would respect a doctor who *would* consult official documentation on a matter. ;)

I;m not saying not to consult anyone or anything. But I would rather go
to a doctor, for example, who can say "the problem is..." than having to
look things up. Esp in an emergency situation.

Or designing/erecting a building, bridge, etc.

Yes.. But engineers must rely on their ability to look up stuff (charts,

standards, blue prints, etc)

Again I see nothing wrong with consultations, looking things up, but they should have the head knowledge about things.
Just as one can check figures using a calculator is one thing but to not
have the head knowledge that x times x equals x.
What happens if one needs to find a sum without a calculator and had
never learned how to do math? There a some schools, I understand, that allow calculators during a math test.
That is, there are a lot things that should be known "automatically"
without having to consult with charts, graphs, books, etc. Those are nice to have but a lot should be known in the head.
Joe
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