Gregory Deyss has stepped forward and volunteered to be the new moderator.
This change takes effect immediately. Please welcome Gregory into his new role!

Thanks, Gregory!

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Hello Mike!

Saturday May 31 2025 19:24, you wrote to All:

This change takes effect immediately.

The transfer of power in monarchy style. "Here is your new King, I decided so, so live with it".

Alex

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Alex Galiyev wrote to Mike Powell <=-

This change takes effect immediately.

The transfer of power in monarchy style. "Here is your new King, I
decided so, so live with it".

Will you please fuck off and go away?

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Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.




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On 01 Jun 2025, Dan Clough said the following...

Alex Galiyev wrote to Mike Powell <=-

This change takes effect immediately.

The transfer of power in monarchy style. "Here is your new King, I decided so, so live with it".

Will you please fuck off and go away?

I get it, I totally do.
Right from gate his tone w/ me was abrasive and disrespectful.
So he gets what he has earned.

... We all make choices, but in the end, our choices make us.

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This change takes effect immediately.

The transfer of power in monarchy style. "Here is your new King, I decided so,
so live with it".

In FIDO, unless it is a sysop echo, that is usually how it happens. Either:

(1) The moderator tires of moderating and asks someone else to do it;
(2) The moderator tires of moderating and someone volunteers;
(3) The moderator tires of moderating, says nothing, and the echo is
eventually delisted and dies off -- or continues unmoderated (but probably
with broken links).

You can substitute "leaves the network," "takes their BBS down," "dies,"
etc., for "tires of moderating" into any of those three scenarios, too.

In this case, scenario #2 happened. I said I was going to retire and
de-list the echo, and Gregory was the first person to volunteer.

Now, there are some people who, had they volunteered, I would have turned
them down because I have watched how they interact with persons who don't
share their views. Having them moderate would have killed the echo.
Gregory, in past, has had some decent interactions with persons who don't
agree with him, so I was persuaded to let him take it over.

There are not that many sysops left who want to moderate an echo, and even fewer who'd want to moderate a "politics" echo. So, if you get a decent volunteer, you realize that is rare and you take them up on it.

Mike


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Gregory, in past, has had some decent interactions with persons who don't agree with him, so I was persuaded to let him take it over.

Mike, I appreciate your trust and confidence. You're absolutely right. There have indeed been some lively and decent interactions with individuals who haven't always agreed with me, and there certainly will be more of those in the future. Disagreements are welcome; they're part of what makes robust debate possible. However, there might also be those who choose to test boundaries or deliberately provoke.

To them, I'll simply say this: spirited discussion is encouraged, but disrespect won't be tolerated.
Greg

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Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.

It's about time somebody said it just like that!

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Hello Gregory!

Sunday June 01 2025 11:52, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Will you please fuck off and go away?

Right from gate his tone w/ me was abrasive and disrespectful.

Respect must be earned, I don't just respect some random silly goose.

Alex

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Hello Dan!

Sunday June 01 2025 08:50, you wrote to me:

Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.

Putin's fan, go back to Moscow, fascist.

Alex

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Gregory, in past, has had some decent interactions with persons who don't agree with him, so I was persuaded to let him take it over.

Mike, I appreciate your trust and confidence. You're absolutely right. There have indeed been some lively and decent interactions with individuals who haven't always agreed with me, and there certainly will be more of those in the future. Disagreements are welcome; they're part of what makes robust debate possible. However, there might also be those who choose to test boundaries or deliberately provoke.

To them, I'll simply say this: spirited discussion is encouraged, but disrespect won't be tolerated.

That is an excellent policy. ;)

Mike
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Alex,

Let's make something perfectly clear, shall we? Your continuous
questioning of my authority and repeated mockery of my role as moderator ends here and now.

I have carefully cataloged your interactions:

1."May we know who elected you in the first place?"
- Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.

2."So you took over this echo without anyone electing you, simply to demonstrate your power and punish us - that's dictatorship."
- Accusing appointment as dictatorial.

3."The transfer of power in monarchy style. 'Here is your new King, I decided
so, so live with it'."
- Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.

4."Here come the dictator's narratives... The man dreamed of a bit of power,
and he obtained it."
- Openly attacking character as power-hungry.

5. "Wow, such a disgrace. Thank you for showing us who you really are. #
POLITICS official rules: Please refrain from 'drunk posting' or posting while stoned."
- Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.

6."Hello Dan! Sunday June 01 2025 08:50, you wrote to me: DC> Oh, and fuck Ukraine also. Putin's fan, go back to Moscow, fascist."
- Using inflammatory language and accusing another participant of fascism.

7."Respect must be earned, I don't just respect some random silly
goose."
- Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

These behaviors are neither innocent nor acceptable. They constitute open defiance, personal insinuations, and intentional disruptions aimed at undermining moderation and community cohesion.
Understand clearly who you are dealing with I am the Network Coordinator (NC) of the entire state of New York, a state neighboring yours. My role demands respect, adherence to policy, and proper conduct.
Be assured, I do not play games when it comes to maintaining order and standards within this community. Additionally, to clarify my position, I am non-sympathetic towards Ukraine, especially considering the enormous sums exceeding billions of dollars the U.S. has supplied to a country widely recognized for significant corruption and questionable dealings, particularly related to the Biden administration.
Personally, I believe it is a gift from God that this tired old man and his clown show that was the Biden Administration moved out of town.
This stance, however, does not imply that I am pro-Putin, nor does it align me with fascist views, contrary to your inflammatory accusations directed at Dan Clough. This is NOT a warning but consider it a precursor to one.
A final opportunity to correct course. It's totally your move.
A direct signal that further disruption will not be tolerated.
Therefore, you have two choices moving forward:
Engage respectfully, adhere to the established guidelines, and contribute constructively to discussions. Continue your disruptive behavior and face decisive moderation actions, including potential removal from the echo.
The choice is yours, Alex. I strongly suggest you make it wisely.

Gregory Deyss Moderator

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Alex Galiyev wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.

Putin's fan, go back to Moscow, fascist.

I'm not a Putin fan, and I've never been to Moscow, moron.

I'll say it again, so you might be able to understand - fuck you, and
fuck Ukraine.

We've (the USA) wasted enough money trying to bail you losers out.
Fight your own fuckin war. Get your dumb ass back there and pick up a
rifle, or stop your bitching, you little pussy.



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Hello Gregory!

Sunday June 01 2025 17:54, you wrote to me:

Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to your message.

Alex

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Hello Dan!

Sunday June 01 2025 17:12, you wrote to me:

We've (the USA) wasted enough money trying to bail you losers out.

Who "you"? I'm not from Ukraine, never been there.

Alex

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Hello Dan!

Ban this guy for personal attacks.
He started first, I was defending myself (common law).
You have your rules and claimed you will not tolerate this behaviour.

I'm not a Putin fan, and I've never been to Moscow, moron.
I'll say it again, so you might be able to understand - fuck you, and
fuck Ukraine.
We've (the USA) wasted enough money trying to bail you losers out.
Fight your own fuckin war. Get your dumb ass back there and pick up a
rifle, or stop your bitching, you little pussy.

Alex

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On 01 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

Hello Gregory!

Sunday June 01 2025 17:54, you wrote to me:

Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to your message.

Let me get this straight, you're actually making demands now?
Only to offer your response? Did I get that right?

First. You are out of line.
Why? You don't come at me making demands (period)

Second. Alex.. it doesn't work like that..

Maybe, Just Maybe if you didn't come at me like a wrecking ball with your accusatory tone, and the rest of it.
(Which is below for your review) - BTW
Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.
Accusing appointment as dictatorial.
Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.
Openly attacking character as power-hungry.
Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.
Using inflammatory language and accusing another participant of fascism. Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

I think we can skip the fidonet tribunal this time.
Case closed.

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On 01 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

Hello Dan!

Ban this guy for personal attacks.
He started first, I was defending myself (common law).

Common Law?
FidoNet isn't governed by common law principles like precedent or jury of peers. It's a network of private systems, and when you are the moderator
(and I am) of a specific echo, you are the authority
-judge, jury, and, if need be, the hammer.

Policy 4.20 establishes coordination structure - not democratic echo governance. When you were appointed (or assumed) moderation of the echo, and especially if you revived it from dormancy, your rules stand.
Participants opt into that space knowing you're the one steering it.

Bottom Line
I am the law.

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Hello Gregory!

Sunday June 01 2025 17:54, you wrote to me:

I have carefully cataloged your interactions:

You're welcome to read them every night before you go to sleep.

- Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.
- Accusing appointment as dictatorial.
- Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.
- Openly attacking character as power-hungry.
- Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.
- Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

All these I can do legally according to this echo's rules, as well as Fidonet policy.

These behaviors are neither innocent nor acceptable.

They're perfectly acceptable, name one rule which says otherwise.

Understand clearly who you are dealing with I am the
Network Coordinator (NC) of the entire state of New York

I'm not in the state of NY, and you have no authority over me. So leave your pride to your New York downlinks. To me, you're a nobody from nowhere.

My role demands respect

Respect must be earned in the first place.

Be assured, I do not play games when it comes to maintaining order

Oh yes you do, you don't follow your own rules.

I am non-sympathetic towards Ukraine

In regards to Ukraine I will respond personally in NETMAIL.

Take A Hike, Bozo.

Alex

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Hello Gregory!

Sunday June 01 2025 22:25, you wrote to me:

Common Law?

If I was attacked, I can respond. This is a common sense. PERIOD.

I am the law.

You are no one from nowhere to me.

Alex

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Gregory Deyss wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to your message.

Let me get this straight, you're actually making demands now?
Only to offer your response? Did I get that right?

First. You are out of line.
Why? You don't come at me making demands (period)

Second. Alex.. it doesn't work like that..

Maybe, Just Maybe if you didn't come at me like a wrecking ball with
your accusatory tone, and the rest of it. (Which is below for your
review) - BTW Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.
Accusing appointment as dictatorial.
Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.
Openly attacking character as power-hungry.
Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.
Using inflammatory language and accusing another participant of
fascism. Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

You should see the couple of (threatening) netmails he sent me tonight. Perhaps I should post them publicly...

I think we can skip the fidonet tribunal this time.
Case closed.

I think this loser should be banned from the echo.

I will not be engaging with the whacko any further.



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Hello Dan!

Sunday June 01 2025 23:26, you wrote to Gregory Deyss:

I think this loser should be banned from the echo.
I will not be engaging with the whacko any further.

Go kiss your mother's behind (c) Arnold Schwarzenegger

Alex

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Hello Dan!

Sunday June 01 2025 23:26, you wrote to Gregory Deyss:

Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to

You have been officially removed from this echo.
Don't even think about posting a single message here.

REMEMBER: "The removal is final." (c) Gregory Deyss

Alex

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Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.

It's about time somebody said it just like that!

I thought this echo was "important" to you because vulgarity was against
the rules? ;)


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