Ed Vance wrote to lodger <=-

It was within my capabilities because when I bought a TI-35 Calculator
at K-Mart, Texas Instruments included a very good book. "The Great International Math On Keys Book".

That Book explained Home Mortgage Calculations, and I had already
fooled with the Formula in the book to do just what he needed.

I did all those calculations by hand for my first mortgage. When I
re-financed it, I bought a HP 12c calculator and let it do all the
heavy lifting. :)


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Poindexter,
I have a question for You and the Others.
After having DSL and Fiber Internet failures here I thought a Android phone could be attached to my XP box and I could be using the phones Data feature with a REAL keyboard and Multimail as I had normally done B4 internet failed here.

According to Microsoft Support a XP ot Vista PC can't do that.

Suggestions from Anyone how to use USB with the phone and pc Is what I am wanting to do.
Help is VERY MUCH Appreciated.

My experience using a BBS has shown if I want to know something, just post about it and Someone who does what I wish to know about does it on the job.

I got interested in owning a PC back in the 1970's from reading Popular Electronics Magazine and from friends who owned a computer.
Some were Hams, some I knew at Church

THANKS for reading.
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Hello Ed Vance!

** On Saturday 09.03.24 - 19:33, Ed Vance wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

I have a question for You and the Others.
After having DSL and Fiber Internet failures here I thought a Android phone could be attached to my XP box and I could be using the phones Data feature with a REAL keyboard and Multimail as I had normally done B4 internet failed here.

According to Microsoft Support a XP ot Vista PC can't do that.

I use a couple of different phones/androids to connect my XP-
based Thinkpad T60, no problem. I simply operate the phones as
hotspots and connect my laptop with wifi.
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After having DSL and Fiber Internet failures here I thought a Android
phone
could be attached to my XP box and I could be using the phones Data
feature
with a REAL keyboard and Multimail as I had normally done B4 internet
failed
here.

According to Microsoft Support a XP ot Vista PC can't do that.

It might be that, while you cannot plug the phone directly into the
machine to share the internet, you might still be able to use the phone.

(1) if your machine supports wireless or, if you have an ethernet port,
you can find a wireless dongle for it, your phone might be able to act as
a wireless hot spot to supply internet for your pc. Your phone and/or
provider may or may not support the phone-as-a-wireless-hotspot so you'd
have to figure that out first.

(2) some mobile providers will sell you a wireless hot spot device that
will allow you to use your mobile plan to provide internet to your
household. This would likely also require to you find a wireless dongle
to plug into the pc to accept the signal.

I have never tried using my mobile plan to provide internet to another
device, but I have seen others do it, and I have received offers from
providers in the past for the wireless hot spot device.

I have used a wireless dongle on a Thinkpad laptop that was just old
enough not to have wireless built it. The machine thought it was an
ethernet connection and it worked great. The one caveat here is that you
have to be able to access the dongle, either via software or a browser interface, to get it set up before you can use it. If it requires
software, you will need to be sure the software is compatible with your
OS.

Once they are programmed to "point to" the proper wireless signal, they
are usually OS independent and can be plugged into any device that will
accept an ethernet connection (and that has a free USB port available to
power the device).



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August (?),
I rather want them connected with a USB CABLE with an USB C to the phone and an USB A in the XP.

Remember the Burger King commercial "I WANT TO HAVE MY WAY!!!!!!"

Before I got this phone the only device in the computer room is a AIO printer /scanner.

Wi-Fi was turned off of it the first time it was turned on.

I'm a private person that doesn't want anyone intruding into my computer stuff.

A neighbor who retired from Tech told me I need to create a VERY COMPLEX SSID for the Negate Wi-Fi Router I bought from him.
(This was last year after the AT&T's Fiber/Wi-Fi Router fiasco).

Since You mentioned owning an Android phone, I have a question for you.
Where in the Settings can I see the SSID Settings AND / OR make changes to it IF I decided to try the Wi-Fi route vice USB.

MANY THANKS! to YOU AND ANY OTHER WHO CAN HELP THIS CANTANKEROUS FELLOW!
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Hello Ed Vance!

** On Monday 11.03.24 - 19:37, Ed Vance wrote to Ogg:

I rather want them connected with a USB CABLE with an USB
C to the phone and an USB A in the XP.

I never explored a hard-wire connection between phone and pc.
Depending on the phone and your pc capabilities, a Bluetooth
link up could be possible too. Either wifi or bluetooth, I
think wireless is the way to go.

I'm a private person that doesn't want anyone intruding
into my computer stuff.

The wireless between phone and pc ought be secure enough.

A neighbor who retired from Tech told me I need to create
a VERY COMPLEX SSID for the Negate Wi-Fi Router I bought
from him. (This was last year after the AT&T's Fiber/Wi-Fi
Router fiasco).

What is a complex SSID? It's just a string. Spying computers
don't care what it is. You can disable the "broadcast" of the
SSID. Devices attempting to connect would need to know the
passphrase to allow a connection.

Since You mentioned owning an Android phone, I have a
question for you. Where in the Settings can I see the SSID
Settings AND / OR make changes to it IF I decided to try
the Wi-Fi route vice USB.

Look for the thing that looks like a gear. Tap on that, and
look for something called "Connections".

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In another echo tonight, I posted a msg to August.
Are You (OGG) him?
I think so.
Been wrong with "my" memory lots of times tho.

The XP rig is a desktop and never investigated running Bluetooth with it.

If You are not August, I told August I don't use Wi-Fi because the notebook here has WEP not WPA2.

It's an Acer Vista Home box.
After turning it on I wait to see the Wi-Fi led blink and then press the button to shut it down.
I'm writing to the group on this BBS,, NOT someone lurking on Wi-Fi.

Yes, I am a case.
Just never been documented about it EXCEPT for BBS Users who read posts from me in the past (and currently).

I would prefer USB but Bluetooth might be a better route over the Wi-Fi option.

Thanks for the help.
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Hello Ed!

** On Monday 11.03.24 - 23:05, Ed Vance wrote to Ogg:

In another echo tonight, I posted a msg to August.
Are You (OGG) him?
I think so.
Been wrong with "my" memory lots of times tho.

I am who thee speaks of he.

The XP rig is a desktop and never investigated running
Bluetooth with it.

If You are not August, I told August I don't use Wi-Fi
because the notebook here has WEP not WPA2.

It's an Acer Vista Home box.

A few lines back you say it's XP. Now you say it's Vista?

The OS doesn't matter as much anyway.

A short test just to see if you can work with wifi wouldn't be life-threatening. Bluetooth might be better for use between
phone and laptop for continued use.


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Hi Ed! It's taken me a while to reply, I enjoy your messages and wanted to take the time to write a proper reply.

Between the time I was Discharged from the Navy and seeing the Netronics advertisement another Ham I visited was using a CW
Sending/Receiving keyboard
terminal hooked up to his Gear and reading incoming
code and what he typed on a TV set.
Boy! did I drool over his set-up.

Sounds like a great setup for the time. Was there any longer-term storage involved, or (I assume) it was just for realtime use, showing the data live?

The CW Sending/Receving keyboard is translating between letters and morse code for the user, correct? So you press 'S' and it outputs ... ?

Note: I use Megacycles instead of Hertz because as a child one day I EV> took the headphone off of my older brothers Crystal Radio Set,
and then sat on the floor by an A.C. RECEPTACLE and put those two metal EV> terminals into the slots so I could hear what Electricity sounded like EV> (after all my brother could hear AM Radio Stations over that headphone EV> with a long antenna wire Dad hung up alongside the house).
With one hand I held that single headphone to a ear and with the other EV> hand I pushed the terminals in .

I heard a loud BUZZ and the shock moved me back a few inches.

Fantastic story, and if I ever observe erratic behaviour from you then I will assume this to be the root cause. ;)

Given that it is a RECEPTACLE it does seem reasonable to try to receive through it... That had to be a hell of a 60hz boom. :)


Chris/akacastor

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You asked about the length of a Packet Radio Session.
When I was logged in to the Packet Repeater BBS I would
select the option to have ALL new messages sent continually.
When the Buffer on the C=64's terminal program was
almost full, I would press the Key to tell the BBS to Pause.
Save the Buffer to floppy disk, Clear the Buffer and
then type the Command to have the BBS resume sending what it had for me.

The original offline mail reader! That's gotta predate QWK by a few years! :)

It may have been I would have had my Epson FX-86
printer print all of the info the BBS sent to me.
Under the Printer was a Box of FanFold Paper.

I may had printed everything, logged off and then start reading.

Printing everything to fanfold paper makes me nostalgic and I wasn't even there! :) (I did print to fanfold paper from my Tandy 1000HX in the 80s.)

Back two years ago when DSL was working here, I used an BAT File to run EV> a FTP Script that would Sign In, GET new mail on this BBS, Log Off.

I have been using Blue Wave offline mail reader on Roon's BBS but ran into Y2K problems when posting messages. I might have missed RTTY and radio BBSes but I remember the (mostly) DOS based BBS offline readers fondly. (QWK, Blue Wave, Silver Xpress)

Chris, about 110Baud ASCII, I "think" (C) TM it is 7 bits.
I haven't seen any purffed(?) tape to know if there
were 7 or 8 Holes in it.

Makes sense that it would be 7 bits.

RTTY Baudot tape has 5 Holes I know as a FACT after
handling many, many miles of it in the Ships Radio Room.

I'm just realizing - you must have had an actual 'bit bucket' also?

I tuned my Transceiver to the Frequency that W1AW made their RTTY EV> Broadcast on 20 Meters (14 Mc/s) because after the RTTY Broadcast they EV> sent the same Bulletin(s) in 110 ASCII.

After the ASCII broadcast ended I typed:

CQ CQ CQ DE W9ODR K
on my terminal, which meant " A general call to anyone, from me, over.
I figured some other Ham who could receive ASCII would hear me and answer.

YEP!!!!!!!

I made Contacts several different days doing that.
And the first time I did that it proved that I could Send ASCII as well as Receive&Decode it.

Nice trick to make contacts! Must have felt pretty fulfilling to get your first answers and know for sure your transmission is working correctly and everything is good!

Instead of cussing out someone you would call them a LID or a BIG LID.

I hope I can remember this in the moment when someone next pisses me off. I am sure I'll get confused looks when I call someone a LID but I will have the satisfaction of knowing what it means. :) (though I do know a couple friends who would immediately 'get it' if I called them that - maybe I'd be surprised by others. secret HAMs may be out there.)


Chris/akacastor

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Two PC's - XP desktop, Vista notebook.
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I think my friends CW terminal may have had enuf memory to store CQ de his call, maybe a few other short items.

Yes, pressing a key would send the letter in CW .

IIRC the terminal could Receive (and Send 65 WPM) CW.
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Re: bit bucket , IIRC the perforators had a small metal container to catch the CHAFF. It has to be emptied occasionally, can't recall if the "perf" had a small lever in the container to pause it when it became almost full.

The ARRL definition of LID is "a poor operator".
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Re: 60 CPS hum.
I learned later in life that no one wants 60 cycle HUM on their audio gear.

HMMMM?
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