It looks like the biggest bump of traffic this network got was talking about my absence, I can gladly go again if it keeps the traffic flowing ;)
Thankfully for Mystic, Husky and a shit load of perl scripts, things
kept humming along just fine without manual intervention. Apart from a nodelist error and one freeze that I can remember in the past 4 or 5 month, this network kept ticking.
Thankfully for Mystic, Husky and a shit load of perl scripts, things kept humming along just fine without manual intervention. Apart from nodelist error and one freeze that I can remember in the past 4 or 5 month, this network kept ticking.
That says something about the person who set it all up. :)
That says something about the person who set it all up. :)
Do I owe you money or something?
Not that I know of... ;)
I may be asking you about RNtrack in the near future though... Either
that or a few how-to's on Perl. ;)
I may be asking you about RNtrack in the near future though... Either that or a few how-to's on Perl. ;)
Ask away.
I'm not sure if I really need something like RNtrack, but could probably do everything I needed with HPT and perl, but I don't know perl...
What exactly is the error you are getting with RNTrack and can you send meyour config file so I can take a looksee.
I'm not sure if I really need something like RNtrack, but could probably do everything I needed with HPT and perl, but I don't
know perl...
I don't use HPT for ping responses, that is handled by RNTrack. I have some custom perl functions that do get used by HPT but it's
stuff like Test
message responses to posts made in certain echos and some echomail cleaning that has to happen before it gets posted to the SCINET.*
newsgroups.
So I use HPT for ping/pong, route validation (netmails bounce if the target isnot in the nodelist), bouncing netmails to users at the hub (since its mailonly) and netmail loop detection.
If you wanted to go that route, I can share my perl.
I found out that neither of our systems were catching a loop I had going between us a few days ago... One of my test netmails started
bouncing between my system and your Sportnet hub. I think I ended up with about 150 messages in a matter of a couple minutes before I
could intervene. :)
If you could, that would be great. As I stated, I really don't know perl at all. Unless it was Minnie Pearl... ;)
But I dont think it was the "same" message being "forwarded" (which is
the loopprotection), it was replies to a message, and thus each message going back wasa "new" message?
If it was indeed the first scenario (where a message was being routed,
and thusbeing forwarded between our systems), I'd like to debug that -
as I'mspecifically trying to catch that scenario...
OK, I'll package it up tonight and drop it in your inbound with some destructions.
If you wanted to go that route, I can share my perl.
Yes, I think hpt was routing it to you, you sent it back, hpt re-routed it... That's what happens when you miss a setting in your hpt
routing... ;) It should be corrected here now.
If it was indeed the first scenario (where a message was being routed,
and thusbeing forwarded between our systems), I'd like to debug that -
as I'mspecifically trying to catch that scenario...
I know that my end was adding a via line to the message, so I guess it could be considered a 'new' message.
If you wanted to go that route, I can share my perl.
I'd be interested in peeking under the hood.
It looks like the biggest bump of traffic this network got was talking about my absence, I can gladly go again if it keeps the traffic flowing ;)
You know, helping generate traffic is often the job of a coordinator on a smaller network. This might have been a seriously unconventional way to dothat, but it seems to have worked!
After being glued to the tv over the past two days watching an election that has nothing to do with me, I no longer try to assume anything, EVER.
Ha! Right?
That's a good way to drive yourself insane. You might as well wait a few days(or a month in this case...)
Are they checking for hanging chads? Are the PA folks using beans to do they counting? Is there a bean shortage in the oddly named midwest (it's actually north central/east)?
I think they are trying to be super careful and do everything by the
book sinceobservers are in place from both campaigns. In addition due
to wacky PA statelaw they couldn't even open the mail-in ballots until
the morning of ElectionDay. And with millions recieved due to COVID,
they just need more time toprocess them all.
I totally get it. As someone who has spent his entire adult life working and being in politics, I completely understand that you need to protect the integrity of the process. I, like almost everyone else, are patiently waiting for the results, just wish that they would come quicker.
Are they checking for hanging chads? Are the PA folks using beans to do they co
nting? Is there a bean shortage in the oddly named midwest (it's actually north
central/east)?
Maybe some of those high-falootin states are the ones full of backwards hicks, or dishonest ones?
I'm still fucking watching CNN, I have watched numbers move slowly for
the past 4 hours.
Are they checking for hanging chads? Are the PA folks using beans to do they counting? Is there a bean shortage in the oddly named midwest (it's actually north central/east)?
Either way, I'm glad so many states passed props to allow magic
mushrooms. It should would make waiting for a final count a lot more interesting.
Are they checking for hanging chads? Are the PA folks using beans to do they counting? Is there a bean shortage in the oddly named midwest (it's actually north central/east)?
I live in a state that folks often make fun of for being backwards and fullof stupid hicks. A couple of other nearby states get made fun of
the sameway. I think it is interesting that all three of our states got our votesall counted, high mail in volumes and all, shortly after the polls closed.
Nah the Republican's fought to prevent the state from counting ballots untilthe night of the election, so they literally have to go through MILLIONS ofballots that have to be opened, validated, and scanned by a real person. Lotsof manual labor.
Several battleground areas were prevented from starting to count mail in ballots until the night of election. I know Pennsylvania was and I
think therewere others. Lots of other areas started earlier and many smaller and "redder"states had signficantly less mail in ballots to
count.
Are they checking for hanging chads? Are the PA folks using beans to do they counting? Is there a bean shortage in the oddly named midwest (it' actually north central/east)?
Nah the Republican's fought to prevent the state from counting ballots until the night of the election, so they literally have to go through MILLIONS of ballots that have to be opened, validated, and scanned by a real person. Lo of manual labor.
No offense, but that is how we always do it in Spain and the counting is donein a matter of hours for the whole country. We don't use automated counting atall.
I think they are waiting for the various fishermen in Alaska to come
back to port before they start to count. Either that or they are taking
a shot of something every 1000 votes counted and they keep passing out.
No offense, but that is how we always do it in Spain and the counting is donein a matter of hours for the whole country. We don't use automated counting atall.
I live in a state that folks often make fun of for being backwards and fullof stupid hicks. A couple of other nearby states get made fun of the sameway. I think it is interesting that all three of our states got our votesall counted, high mail in volumes and all, shortly after the polls closed.
Several battleground areas were prevented from starting to count mail in ballot
until the night of election. I know Pennsylvania was and I think there were o
hers. Lots of other areas started earlier and many smaller and "redder" states
had signficantly less mail in ballots to count.
Who knows what is going on in places like Alaska and Nevada though!
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Maybe some of those high-falootin states are the ones full of backwards hicks, or dishonest ones?
Amen, Brother!
Lemme guess, 'Bama? (my ancestors are from the deep south, I am a member of S
V, and most of my family live there)
Are they checking for hanging chads? Are the PA folks using beans to do they co
nting? Is there a bean shortage in the oddly named midwest (it's actually north
central/east)?
Nah the Republican's fought to prevent the state from counting ballots until th
night of the election, so they literally have to go through MILLIONS of ballots
that have to be opened, validated, and scanned by a real person. Lots of manua
l labor.
I have actually never heard of PA being referred to as the midwest. Ohio,Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and maybe a couple of other statesare known as "The Great Midwest." IIRC, that comes from "The MidwestTerritory" which is what the area was called before the colonist
/ newAmericans had moved much farther West of the Mississippi River, before theyhad any idea that America would really become "from sea to shining sea." :)
the ball than us. OTOH, here you also cannot change your vote once
you've cast it, but you can in PA so maybe there is some logic to not counting them beforehand.
That may have happened in some states but my understanding of the PA situation is that the state didn't want to count them early and won a courtbattle which allowed them not to.
I have actually never heard of PA being referred to as the midwest.
According to the US census, those states were referred to as the "North Central Region" until 1984 when they changed it to "Midwestern Region". It's just funny to see it referred to as the midwest when it's no where near the midwest.
I remember back in 2000 (?) one of the Pacific NW states took a long time because *all* of their ballots were mail-in? So, like you said, who knows!
I have actually never heard of PA being referred to as the midwe
According to the US census, those states were referred to as the "Nor Central Region" until 1984 when they changed it to "Midwestern Region It's just funny to see it referred to as the midwest when it's no whe near the midwest.
I've lived here most of my life and I never heard anyone refer to PA as Midwest!
I live in 60-90 minute drive from the beach on the east coast!
I've lived here most of my life and I never heard anyone refer to PA as Midwest!
I live in 60-90 minute drive from the beach on the east coast!
I've lived here most of my life and I never heard anyone refer to PA as Midwest!
I live in 60-90 minute drive from the beach on the east coast!
I suspect they will be able to get an early-count law passed after the elect before the next one since there won't be a presidential election on the horizon.
First you get the presential voting and people puts their ballots in the urn.Then the voting stations get closed for the public and the mail-in ballotsarrive. They put the main-in ballots in the urn and mixe them
all. Then theyget counted, all of them.
People complaining corruption are just people who are mad because their candidate isn't winning.
Barefoot, toothless dumb-dumbs who can oddly enough count. :)
You can't do that here in PA either that was some bad information circulating ound.
I remember back in 2000 (?) one of the Pacific NW states took a long time >DW> because *all* of their ballots were mail-in? So, like you said, who
knows!
Don't worry, we've had a long time to get all of those wrinkles ironed out. We're way ahead of the curve on vote-by-mail in WA now. GET ON OUR LEVEL, OTHER STATES! :P
There is undoubtely some of that, but quite frankly, there are enough videosaround of people placing foul ballots in etc to consider something fishy isgoing on.
You can't do that here in PA either that was some bad information circul ound.
That wasn't just on any "fake news," PA and several other states actually did show up if you googled it. Dark days when you can't even trust google!LOL!
No there aren't. If you're going to make a statement like that show it.
There is really no need to start counting ballots while there are
ballots stillto be cast. That is asking for trouble.
We also have nominal mail-in ballot kits... you have to ask for them in yourofficial station (usually the post office). They issue one to you
when you askfor it, in hand, with ID and everything, and a lot of anticipation is needed.Then you may fill your ballots at home as you prefer and ship them using theregular post service. It makes it "hard to vote" because you have to go to anofficial station with ID and
everything, but you save yourself any shitshowabout elections getting fixed and whatnot.
Fun fact: from a Spanish radio station somebody near here is listening too:"The US has no fucking clue about counting ballots, but we don't
have a fuckingclue about counting our dead, so maybe we are even?"
No there aren't. If you're going to make a statement like that show
It's on the internet or facebook therefor it must be true, lol.
That wasn't just on any "fake news," PA and several other states actually
did show up if you googled it. Dark days when you can't even trust google!LOL!
Honestly I don't understand what you were trying to say there. But I can ass
e you that you can't change your vote. The tweets of Trump saying you can are
alse.
And some of them just do it because they choose to believe what they *wish*were true, not what actually is true.
There is undoubtely some of that, but quite frankly, there are enough videos around of people placing foul ballots in etc to consider
something fishy is going on.
Yeah, too many people get caught up just passing along information
without verifying it.
And some of them just do it because they choose to believe what they *wish* were true, not what actually is true.
What I am saying is it was not just tweets from Trump. You could google it and find it in actual news articles that were not quoting Trump or
the RNC and that were not from FOX news. So, like I said, "PA and
several other states actually did show up if you googled it."
What I am saying is it was not just tweets from Trump. You could google itand find it in actual news articles that were not quoting Trump or the RNC andthat were not from FOX news. So, like I said, "PA and several other statesactually did show up if you googled it."
The "news" in our country does not verify anything anymore before printingor saying it.
There is undoubtely some of that, but quite frankly, there are enough videos around of people placing foul ballots in etc to consider something fishy is going on.
Source? Care to share them?
When people make outlandish claims I tend to ask them to prove their outlandish claims. It's funny, a video or photo or something that people suggest exists to support their position would be very easy to just share,but they don't, instead they say "google it" or "research it yourself" whichis an obvious dodge.
I hate posting political stuff on the small BBS community.. but I think this election had the same amount of regular 'issues' or 'fraud' that happens eve election. I think the people spoke; and whether or not I agree with the outcome/winner, I think the citizens spoke and chose a President...
I don't think there is evidence enough to claim the results of the election aredue to fraud, but clues enough to point out the election was not clean in anumber of places.
ryan wrote to g00r00 <=-
Yeah, too many people get caught up just passing along information
without verifying it.
And some of them just do it because they choose to believe what they *wish* were true, not what actually is true.
When people make outlandish claims I tend to ask them to prove
their outlandish claims. It's funny, a video or photo or
something that people suggest exists to support their position
would be very easy to just share, but they don't, instead they
say "google it" or "research it yourself" which is an obvious
dodge.
Re: Re: Traffic
By: paulie420 to ryan on Sun Nov 08 2020 11:20 am
I hate posting political stuff on the small BBS community.. but I think election had the same amount of regular 'issues' or 'fraud' that happen election. I think the people spoke; and whether or not I agree with the outcome/winner, I think the citizens spoke and chose a President...
If the Country/States can't handle tabulating votes then we should
have an"Election Month" not an Election Day. Voting by mail should be
the norm not theexecption. Why should voters have to wait on long lines? Especially if theweather is lousy. People should be able to chose for themselves how they wantto vote. Every US citizen is required to have a social security number. Thisnumber could easily be used as voter ID. If it's OK to pay taxes by mail thenvoting by mail should be acceptable
too. There's no reason to have all thischaos. This years elections may have been the best thing for this country.Something has to change and
the 2020 election may be just what the doctorordered.That's my 2 cents anyway.
HusTler
hacks/errors, but its a computer age - why can't we do it online and see the results/vote counts AS THE HAPPEN in real-time?
I understand that we'd have to create a secure system, but... I'm sure the NSA/our government could make that a reality.
Oh! Are you talking about how the Left was asked to prove their outlandish claims about "Russian collusion", for example? And
then.... after $30M or so was wasted, it was found to be false?
If the Country/States can't handle tabulating votes then we should
have an "Election Month" not an Election Day. Voting by mail should be
the norm not the execption. Why should voters have to wait on long
Oh! Are you talking about how the Left was asked to prove their outlandish claims about "Russian collusion", for example? And
then.... after $30M or so was wasted, it was found to be false?
What I am saying is it was not just tweets from Trump. You could google it and find it in actual news articles that were not quoting Trump or the RNC and that were not from FOX news. So, like I said, "PA and several other states actually did show up if you googled it."
roflmao this is the exact thing I was just talking about hahahaha
Bob Roberts wrote to Gamgee <=-
Oh! Are you talking about how the Left was asked to prove their
outlandish claims about "Russian collusion", for example? And
then.... after $30M or so was wasted, it was found to be false?
The investigation cost 30-35 million. However they fined and
settled with various individuals for 28.6 million. Once the
forfieted properties are sold the total recovered will be around
42-45 million. Therefore it earned more then it cost.
Why should voters have to wait on long lines?
People should be able to chose for themselves how
they want to vote. Every US citizen is required to have a social
security number. This number could easily be used as voter ID.
There's no reason to have all this chaos. This years elections may have been the best thing for this country. Something has to change and the
2020 election may be just what the doctor ordered.That's my 2 cents anyway.
We will likely never know the full extent of the cheating in this election. And for each and every 'reporter', politician, and talking
Ahhhh, so that makes it all OK. It earned money.
Bob Roberts wrote to Gamgee <=-
Ahhhh, so that makes it all OK. It earned money.
I'm only correcting your factual error sir. I'm not trying to
change your mind, I know thats not possible.
For every 5 times you've been hit by lightning, thats how many times
there is afraudlent case. How many times have you or someone you know been struck bylightning? There is zero evidence of any significant
fraud in this election.
I made no "factual error" in what I said. Since you conveniently
snipped it out, I'll refresh you: I said that $30M was spent on
an investigation. That is true. I also said this investigation
was trying to show that Trump colluded with Russians, and that it
failed to show that. That also is true.
On 11-08-20 18:54, Netsurge wrote to Arelor <=-
In Canada, Elections Canada is the independent body that overseas elections (We also have similar bodies in each province for provincial
or municipal elections. e.g Elections Ontario). Regardless of where in this country you are, the rules are the same, the process is the same,
the ballot is the same (with the exception of names of the candidates which are regional), the counting process is the same, everything is
the same.
I don't doubt there were anomalies is the US election. 500 votes here,
25 votes there. With most states showing a difference of 10000 or more between the candidates, it is no where near enough to do anything
about.
On 11-09-20 12:32, g00r00 wrote to HusTler <=-
If the Country/States can't handle tabulating votes then we should
have an "Election Month" not an Election Day. Voting by mail should be
the norm not the execption. Why should voters have to wait on long
I think we are moving in that direction because of COVID but I suspect
its going to stay that way.
Although I sincerely appreciate your knowledge and statistics I am not really a statistical person because I believe that they show exactly
what they are given to show. Its certainly not that my mind cannot be
My gut tells me that the Dems cheated in this election in an effort to keep Trump from winning. I don't know exactly how nor by how much but
We'll probably have a good idea because each election is certified and studied,
and fraud alligations with any element of proof are always investigated to comp
etion. The amount of fraud is incredibly low (like %0.000025 across the countr
over 20 years or something to that effect, according to a 20 year Republican or
ganization's study).
Although I sincerely appreciate your knowledge and statistics I am not really statistical person because I believe that they show exactly what they are give
to show. Its certainly not that my mind cannot be changed (as some would way)
ut, at my age I live by two rules:
By this "logic" I could say that the Muller investigation failed to put the coo
ie monster in jail and it would also be factual.
The part of that investigation that pissed me off the most was when they went after Cookie Monster. :(
How does the old saying go... there are lies, damn lies, and statistics? :)
The part of that investigation that pissed me off the most was when they went after Cookie Monster. :(
How does the old saying go... there are lies, damn lies, and statisti :)
Numbers don;t lie and liars use numbers.
Explains why governments use numbers for everything...
Explains why governments use numbers for everything...
90% of the time that statement is 12% false but only when the remaining 10% is90% or more in agreement.
That is intersting. If you don't believe that scientific results are real, then how to determine what is real?
On Tuesday, Judge Haaz promptly put Trump campaign attorney Jonathan Goldstein on the spot. The judge asked him point-blank if the campaign
was actually alleging any fraud. Goldstein went to bat for President
Trump while admitting that he was not alleging fraud, uttering the
phrase (twice): "To my knowledge at present, no." Legal experts said
that Goldstein's remarks were typical of a lawyer unwilling to risk sanctions or bar discipline in service of a client.
Rather than 'back and forth' lets just see how things go, shall we? Clearly we will not change the mind of the other much. Either Trump has
a case or he doesn't. He will win or be dragged kicking and screaming from the Whitehouse. I assume that we can agree for now that he IS
within his rights, under the law, to challenge the results as both
parties have in past elections.
The part of that investigation that pissed me off the most was when they went after Cookie Monster. :(
All he wanted was the damn cookies. Poor blue bastard.
How does the old saying go... there are lies, damn lies, and statistics? :)
Numbers don;t lie and liars use numbers.
Validation syndrome. "I saw a black van drive by my house, therefor,
it's true that the deep state is watching me".
I hate posting political stuff on the small BBS community.. but I think election had the same amount of regular 'issues' or 'fraud' that happen election. I think the people spoke; and whether or not I agree with the outcome/winner, I think the citizens spoke and chose a President...
If the Country/States can't handle tabulating votes then we should
have an "Election Month" not an Election Day. Voting by mail should be
the norm not the execption. Why should voters have to wait on long
lines? Especially if the weather is lousy. People should be able to
chose for themselves how they want to vote. Every US citizen is required to have a social security number. This number could easily be used as voter ID. If it's OK to pay taxes by mail then voting by mail should be acceptable too. There's no reason to have all this chaos. This years elections may have been the best thing for this country. Something has
to change and the 2020 election may be just what the doctor
ordered.That's my 2 cents anyway.
HusTler
With all of you who are coders how difficult can that be?
Writing a voting machine is easy. Writing a voting machine that is
secure isnearly impossible.
Validation syndrome. "I saw a black van drive by my house, therefor,
it's true that the deep state is watching me".
Holy Crap! One just went by here, too. They must be after Scinet sysops!!!
Either way, I'm glad so many states passed props to allow magic
mushrooms. It should would make waiting for a final count a lot more interesting.
I just picture them on dog sleds trying to deliver ballots because they don't have phones or Internet there.
elections may have been the best thing for this country. Something has
to change and the 2020 election may be just what the doctor
I don't doubt there were anomalies is the US election. 500 votes here,
25 votes there. With most states showing a difference of 10000 or more between the candidates, it is no where near enough to do anything about.
I read that Oregon has decriminalized hard drugs, so now people caught
with stuff like heroin or cocaine just pay a fine instead of going to
jail.
For some reason, probably due to the virus, election officials sent "mail-in" ballots to every registered voter in the USA. As soon as I saw it, I became very concerned about mass-fraud.
What we do do is offer advance voting. Each area setups up an office whereyou can go and vote ahead of time if you wish.
That's all I ever do is advance voting. Avoid the crowds, quick in & quickout.
For some reason, probably due to the virus, election officials sent "mail-in" ballots to every registered voter in the USA.
We legalized weed a while back here in Canada. The greatest thing they everdid. The courts are free of stupid possesion charges and the government isable to make some money off of taxing it.
Being able to get my weed using my credit card, what more can you ask
for?
I visited Vancouver YEARS ago, tho, and even tho it was 'illegal' it was stillvery public and in your face... seems like ya'll have always had a betteroutlook on MJ.
Being able to get my weed using my credit card, what more can you ask
for?
What we do do is offer advance voting. Each area setups up an office
where you can go and vote ahead of time if you wish.
For some reason, probably due to the virus, election officials sent "mail-in" ballots to every registered voter in the USA.
WAT? That's not true at all...
Lol... its insane to be able to get the exact type of edible that
doesn't make me anxious and is.. good.
I am happy for you. That's the way it should be. Paying cash doesn't botherme, but it bothers me that they won't let the dispensaries sell us flower; theyonly let us buy vape pens which I assume are either C02 oil
or BHO. Hash isn'tfor everyone, and I think this vape shit is making my mouth bleed. This wouldnot be happening if I was just smoking weed.
But to stay on the bright side, at least they let me get a little baked.
Lol... its insane to be able to get the exact type of edible that doesn't make me anxious and is.. good.
If you get stoned at least once a day, and you don't become a stranger to weed, then I think that keeps the anxiety away. The buzz is more intense afteryou've skipped a day.
Ok it must be a regional thing then. I heard recently the Trump administration >said "people got mail-in ballots without requesting one." It happened to me, >so I thought it happened to everyone. I've never asked for a mail-in ballot >before in any election, and suddenly this year, during the midst of both the >coronavirus & the TDS, a mail-in ballot showed up mysteriously in my mail.
Ok it must be a regional thing then. I heard recently the Trump administration said "people got mail-in ballots without requesting one." It happened to me, so I thought it happened to everyone. I've never
asked for a mail-in ballot before in any election, and suddenly this
year, during the midst of both the coronavirus & the TDS, a mail-in ballot showed up mysteriously in my mail.
Yep, I do believe some *states* sent mail-in ballots to every registered voters for the first time this year, so the gist of what you're saying is totally correct, but yeah, definitely not the whole country. I think I
You are free to buy whatever form you want here. Bud, Oil, Vape, Edibles, pretty much anything.
Its weird - I smoked as a younger human almost daily... and then quit
for oh I dunno, 10 years? Now if I smoke flower, I get crazy anxiety.
All I can think of is the IRS and that the world is ending.
LOL. The edibles are a little nicer to me and allow me to get mildly spliffed.
Yep, I do believe some *states* sent mail-in ballots to every registered voters for the first time this year, so the gist of what you're saying is
I think my state was recounted. We still don't know who won anything
here.
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